New Bergen EB

[OblongMushroom]

Hello

I have been building my new Intrepid EB Kit. Its more fun than I thought.
I have just completed aligning the engine clutch, main, tail gear. I think I have it as smooth as I can get it.

I hear others have had to mod the frame in order to get a good mesh.
Is it really needed?

I cant wait to get it in the air!

Cheers

[tapeworm321]

hear others have had to mod the frame in order to get a good mesh.
Is it really needed?

I had no problems with mine. Everything lined up without any mods.

[OblongMushroom]

yeah, I think mine is lined up pretty good to with no problems.

Im trying to get through the tail drive shaft construction at the moment.


:arggg:

[ShawnK]

Mine went well also.

[OblongMushroom]

Thanks Tapeworm321!

my torque rod worked out very good.

Im back on a roll thanks to your help. :noteworthy

Best regards,

Oblong

[tapeworm321]

No problem. There's others on here that know alot more then I do. :mrgreen: Just ask and will be plenty of help. :glasses2:

[Gary Travis]

You should not have to touchthe frames, I have built several of them and never had a problem. Good luck with the rtest of the build and thanks for choosing the Bergen.
Gary Travis

[bighands3d]

any pics of these EB Bergens.

[ShawnK]

If I could figure out how to put photos in my posts, I'd put up a few for you. (Tried several times unsuccesfully... can anyone shed some light?)

I have a few in my HeliFreak gallery, and some on my Rotory and RunRyder galleries as well. Additionally, I have about a hundred assembly photos on my PC.

[OblongMushroom]

You should not have to touchthe frames, I have built several of them and never had a problem. Good luck with the rtest of the build and thanks for choosing the Bergen.
Gary Travis

Thanks, Im more than happy with this machine Gary. I have not even completed my build yet and I'm getting the itch for a Bergen turbine. :D

I will save that order for christmas!

Will this pipe work for me? ZIMM2620 - ZIMMERMAN PRO STAINLESS MUFFLER SET FOR X-CELL GAS

I hear its not loud wich is good for me.

Thanks guys

[X-SENECA5]

EB GASSER PICS:

http://www.rchelispot.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=3371

http://www.rchelispot.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=926

http://www.rchelispot.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=998

http://www.rchelispot.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=3336

Whoops that first one is the standard Bergen Gasser. :oops:

[ShawnK]

Are those wood blades on the EB? I wasn't aware that 800mm woodies even existed!

[X-SENECA5]

Nope those are 720 woodies,I have the $300 Hi Products (hi lift blades) in a sack only for special circumstances.

[OblongMushroom]

just got my servos in: futaba 9101 on the gas, digital 9252 on all flight controls
my gyro will come with its own servo.

the 9252 has 91.7 oz - in at 4.8V

I hope these have the juice for the job.

anyone using these servos?

[ShawnK]

Should be fine. I use a JR 8231 digital on my collective, and it seems to do the job. The torque specs are similar. I'm not a stick-pounder, though, so I don't know how well that would hold up to repeated abuse.

[OblongMushroom]

Funny thing here, my balls will not screw into my swashplate holes. looks like they did not get a clean tap from the factory. I will have to send the SWplate back to Bergen. not a big deal I need to order my blades, canopy and gyro anyway. Not gonna bother with the split lexan deal yet.

I wanted to be done tonight :bomb:

Buddykitchen

I hear you bro! Im also not a stick pounder myself :smokin:
Whats the torque on yours?

[ShawnK]

An 8231 is rated for 88 oz. and .22 seconds. I also use Airtronics 94453 contest servos on cyclic, which are rated for 100 oz. and .17 seconds (all at 4.8 volts).

I originally had a 94453 on collective as well, but it had a bad pot on my L/R cyclic servo that caused a crash, so while I sent it back to ATX for repair, I moved the collective servo to cyclic and installed the 8231 since I had it laying around anyway. Personally, I can't tell a difference (the 94453 is analog), but I'm sure the 8231 has better resolution.

[cbergen]

Before you send it off,

Which holes are you having a problem with? If you're having a problem with the inner holes and the medium balls that thread in there, check that the threads on the balls aren't too long and bottoming out on the "eyeball". A little removal of the end of the threads wil usually take care of it.

Just a thought.

[OblongMushroom]

C. Bergen, I will give it a go.

Its the short balls that have the problem going in on the outer swashplate.
The threads are hardly visible. the inner threads look good though. I tested a
long ball and it worked fine on the inner.

I will do like you say and remove a thread out two and see how it goes.


Buddykitchen,

How bad was the crash? I will have my fingers crossed on my maiden fight:!:
I will be sure to make sure I have no binding on my servos for sure.

This may sound crazy but it would be good to have a tool the could check the condition of your servo from time to time. This would save modelers arses a ton of money.

[OblongMushroom]

after having a closer look with a friend. There is binding between the inner and outer plates. This is for sure a defective part.

These things happen Im sure. The kit still rocks!!

[ShawnK]

How bad was the crash?

The first one (the one caused by the servo) wasn't that bad. Blades, flybar, pitch arms, and main shaft/spindle were about it. The second crash (most recently) was pretty bad. I was sitting in about a 3 ft. hover, and it just went full negative collective and smashed itself into the ground. So far, my repair list is at about $500 and growing.

I've been chasing down some kind of intermittent radio problem. No luck yet. :arggg: I wouldn't worry too much about yours, though, or you'll never get it in the air. :mrgreen:

I'm sure you'll be fine, and you'll love how it flies!

[cbergen]

We'll have a new one on the way tommorrow. (Labor Day, Cheesh :roll: )

[WillJames]

Now THAT is great service! Rock on Bergen R/C Helicopters!!

[OblongMushroom]

Bergen is the best!!

Thanks so much for the best service one could only hope for.
You guys make me feel like I purchased a ferrari, right on!

Thanks

[ShawnK]

Bighands,

I think I finally figured it out... here's a few (various stages):

http://www.helifreak.com/album_mod/upload/dc0e117c747c0672066066a3e0dc3bef.jpg

http://www.helifreak.com/album_mod/upload/9b6652ed93d1e6bf35c4c5b4c9654efa.jpg

http://www.helifreak.com/album_mod/upload/72d68ea74893136831d6ce19cde8eb5d.jpg

There are more in my galleries on HeliFreak, RunRyder, and Rotory. I wish I knew how I got that first picture to look so good! :mrgreen: (Had just bought my camera, and was learning how to use it!)