Stratus head settings for faster cyclic

[docjoe]

Other than getting the BW upgrade to help make the cyclic response faster, what else can I do to speed up the cyclic? I have used the inner hole on the flybar carrier and used the inner ball link as well. It just seems that the cyclic is really tame to what I'm used to. It has been a while since I've gone back to my Stratus due to different problems here and there but it's up and running fine now.

I guess I could run shorter main blades. I'm running MAH 710s. I am also running the stock 0303 flybar and stock 20g paddles.

I guess I wanted to see what your thoughts are on what head settings your using.

Thanks.

[Caleb Phillips]

To make cyclic response faster you can get faster servos or try an 8 volt setup or maybe even get a new radio like a 12z.

[bparro]

Iam using the stock head settings still. I noticed a pretty big difference in cyclic speed and collective when going to the high ratio stratus. I used the same electronics as I had on the old one too. Is your swashplate maxed out? I set my cyclic limits just before binding on the mainshaft. Also try 90mm v-paddles. The new tst extreme v-blades are also faster on cyclic.

[docjoe]

I am running almost max swash travel with +-12 degrees collective and about 8* on cyclic.

Is the high ratio stratus the BW watts upgrade? I could try different blades and paddles as well.

Would the longer flybar help?

[DavidH]

I am running almost max swash travel with +-12 degrees collective and about 8* on cyclic.

Is the high ratio stratus the BW watts upgrade? I could try different blades and paddles as well.

Would the longer flybar help?

Well with the numbers you have. If you use full cyclic of 8degs. Then about 8 degs of collective either direction is all your going to be able to use. The blades stall at about 16 degs of pitch. So 8+8 =16. LOL

Unless you collective and cyclic management skills are good. That may be why the model is slower than you like. You may be stalling the blades.

David

[docjoe]

Well with the numbers you have. If you use full cyclic of 8degs. Then about 8 degs of collective either direction is all your going to be able to use. The blades stall at about 16 degs of pitch. So 8+8 =16. LOL

Unless you collective and cyclic management skills are good. That may be why the model is slower than you like. You may be stalling the blades.

David

It could be but my other helis have been able to handle these pitch ranges. I can try decreasing them but the roll rate is slow despite fairly fast servos (I don't feel the need to run 8V).

[mgoza]

Its just a suggestion, but you can replicate the BW high ratio by using your radio. Most people use expo on cyclic to soften the neutral position, but you can use reverse expo to make it more sensative near neutral. That will probably get you the response you are after.

Hope it helps.

[Knud Pedersen DENMARK]

I notice a big difference in roll between mu V blades and Radix (Non SB)
The Radix rolls faster in a complet roll manouevers.
But the V blades "Cracks faster".....

I im using 20 gram SAB paddels with the radix, and the stock modified MA paddels with the V blades

Do you want it to crack faster or "roll" faster?
IF you want more crack, you could use negative expo, or try the High rotia Stratus side frames (Bobby Watts)

ChopperKnud

[I3DM]

Stock Stratus with Radix blades should roll plenty fast and have an overall very fast cyclic response.
Yout current blades are probably the cause for the tame cyclics.

On my Stratus i used Radix 710mm and Super Stubz and it was plenty fast on cyclics for anything i could throw at it (videos are on my site if you want to see).

[jake28]

What headspeed are you running? and what servos?

[docjoe]

I'm running 1850-1900 head speed. I've got MAH 710s. I got a chance to fly it yesterday but had some muffler problems. I could increase the cyclic, which will be my next trial. I'll also try a longer flybar. Currently I have a shorter flybar.

[Jafa]

Well with the numbers you have. If you use full cyclic of 8degs. Then about 8 degs of collective either direction is all your going to be able to use. The blades stall at about 16 degs of pitch. So 8+8 =16. LOL


Ever seen Bobby Watts with the IonX or Taipan with the Logo 600 pulling a 17 degree climb out?
I can tell you it was absolutely breath taking with no signs of blade stalling

[WayneBrown]

Lighter main blades will make it faster by a huge margin. I used to have Vic and crew at V Blades search out >120g blades for me. I used to cut 1/8: off the leading edge of the white MA paddles as well, and with bind to bind on cyclic, 12-12 it was plenty fast.

[Ramses08]

Hello,
Do you want it to crack faster or "roll" faster?
I'm sorry I don't really understand what "crack" means ? :oops: (my english is not good enough...sorry)

Also, I noticed that some of you fly with the radix super Stubz. I tested the radix stubz and I must say that the result was very bad (with radix 710 main blade and 1950 rpm) Did someone try the 2 models off paddle and feel a real advantage with the supr stubz ?

Finally my actual setup is 3D MA paddles with radix 710SB and it is quick enough for me !

Thanks for your answers,
Ramses

[docjoe]

You know, without going to buy new paddles (which I know I probably should do), I'm going to try the following:

I will try increasing my cyclic pitch. I still have a ways to go on the cyclic pitch. (current ATV is only around 60 but the Collective pitch and Aileron pitch is about 75-80).

I was thinking about taking my TT Green paddles (20g) and drilling holes in them (and then covering the paddles with reflective tape).

Use the longer MA flybar.

Unfortunately I'll be going to a long conference over the next 2 weeks so I won't be able to do this until later.

Thanks for all your input so far. I will probably buy some bettter/lighter paddles.

[Laurens]

Crack is making your heli shake in the air by fast cyclic inputs. Its not hard to do.

[DavidH]

I'm sorry I don't really understand what "crack" means ? (my english is not good enough...sorry)


You know how a drug addict shakes when they have not had a fix in a long time?
That is where the manuevers that shake got the crack name.

David