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columbusreef
05-18-2008, 11:43 AM
Ok please excuse my ignorance. But I have read several times that adding extra "wheel collars" to the fly bar helps. Am I right to assume they are talking about adding extra flybar weights? If so would the old ones off my CP Pro work?
Also in Sokal's fight video he says that you can set up the swash so that the copter compensates for the left drift on take off without stick input. Can I use the sub trim to make this happen or is this a bad idea?


Thanks!!!!!!!

xpower180
05-18-2008, 11:47 AM
Just added wheel collets to my flybar (outermost positions). It has slowed everything down just right for a proper beginner!

Got mine from my LHS, less than £2 for a set of 4 plus hex key - this little mod got me in the air for the first time.

eugenefelisco
05-18-2008, 02:33 PM
Who ever invented that mod is really great:noteworthy. My 400 can't hover as stable as everybody else. She drifts left,right,front and back. Then I put the smallest wheel collet in my toolbox. Secured it by near the paddles and she is rock solid. No side drift and I can hover in one spot for a few seconds without stick input. I don't know the physics behind it but it works and I love it.

columbusreef
05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Does anyone have a picture of this mod? See my problem is I can't figure out what exactly a "Wheel Collet" is!!!!! I know once I see one I will feel like a total dumb ass and whish I never asked the question.:arggg:

Heli Jim
05-18-2008, 05:31 PM
It's actually called a wheel collar. It is a little round thingie that plane fliers use to hold
the wheels on the landing gear. They have a hole thru the middle and a small allen screw
in the side to keep it on the gear. Most any hobby shop will have them You want to get the
ones that are the same size hole as the size of your fly bar. What they do is add mass to the flybar and slow the reaction time down on the control input.

columbusreef
05-18-2008, 05:56 PM
Geat THanks!!!! I guess I don't feel as dumb asI thought I would! I have never flown RC planes!

eugenefelisco
05-19-2008, 01:13 PM
It's actually called a wheel collar. It is a little round thingie that plane fliers use to hold
the wheels on the landing gear. They have a hole thru the middle and a small allen screw
in the side to keep it on the gear. Most any hobby shop will have them You want to get the
ones that are the same size hole as the size of your fly bar. What they do is add mass to the flybar and slow the reaction time down on the control input.

Oh yah its called wheel collar sorry about that. If your not sure about the size bring with you a bent feathering shaft in your LHS and you'll be ok.

LockMD
05-19-2008, 01:26 PM
Oh yah its called wheel collar sorry about that. If your not sure about the size bring with you a bent feathering shaft in your LHS and you'll be ok.


Huh? Eugene are you sleeping? what would bringing a bent feather shaft with you do? arent you guys talking about flybar weights? or am I sleeping LOL

eugenefelisco
05-19-2008, 02:13 PM
Huh? Eugene are you sleeping? what would bringing a bent feather shaft with you do? arent you guys talking about flybar weights? or am I sleeping LOL

No I was talking about the size of the diameter of the flybar weight. There are alot of sizes of wheel collar, don't know what size I put on coz I just saw it in my plane toolbox. Can't also measure it coz I don't have any calipers here.

JEEPWORLD2002
05-19-2008, 02:19 PM
it really not a mod and u can accomplish the same thing with heavier paddles. You could always use some alerion and elv expo, it will do the same thing as far as make it less jumpy/ twitchy (FAST) The correct term for them is fly bar weights. and u should balance them not just set them to next to the paddles. just my 2c

LockMD
05-19-2008, 02:33 PM
No I was talking about the size of the diameter of the flybar weight. There are alot of sizes of wheel collar, don't know what size I put on coz I just saw it in my plane toolbox. Can't also measure it coz I don't have any calipers here.


Just giving ya a bad time - but wouldn't it make more sense to take a flybar with you since that is what its being installed on :DOH

xpower180
05-19-2008, 02:51 PM
The size needed for the Blade 400 flybar is 2mm or 14swg