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mnwizard
08-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Looking good D, Can't wait to see the finished job.

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 02:13 PM
What motor you going to run in her... i just changed mine out to a 1160 kv 250Watt (original was a crappy 80watt setup) which it flew great with, now its going to be a screamer so yes i am going to add a spar as well.

This is the Motor i got, installed the firewall last night and going to start filling and glassing her tonight.

http://www.rcsmart.com/ebay/rc1160brushlessmotor30aesc01airplane.jpg

http://www.rcsmart.com/ebay/rc1160brushlessmotor30aesc02airplane.jpg

http://www.rcsmart.com/ebay/rc1160brushlessmotor30aesc03airplane.jpg

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 02:14 PM
Ahhh thats the old art-tech p51 you have there :)

another_finn
08-21-2008, 02:53 PM
Ahhh thats the old art-tech p51 you have there :)
Yep - my first plank, and it's still in one piece!

Well it was before I started, anyway... Going to have to cut her up real good and reinforce everything - that's a Towerpro 2409-12T with about 200 W of "go". I might downgrade to something lighter if the airframe survives, but if the wings won't carry her at least I should be able to hover it around :D

Jonnyheli
08-21-2008, 02:57 PM
Mika whats your cats name? It's cute:YeaBaby: I have a cat. Best pet you can ever have:D. His name is bubbles hes soo cute! :D

DW that motor loos soo cool. The coils make the motor look like a real engine on a plane:(

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 02:58 PM
Well there is the Old Crow (Dark version) like i am doing and there is the silver version.

Then there is always

The Betty Lee

http://www.scalemodelart.com/images/joe_hanger/p51_07_jpg.jpg
http://www.scalemodelart.com/images/joe_hanger/p51_09_jpg.jpg

Chuck Yeager's Red Dog XII

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Edwards2005/Highlights/YeagerTaxying_1.jpg


Major George Preddy (http://www.highironillustrations.com/aviation/fullhouse_1.html#preddy)'s Cripes A'Mighty

http://milehighcustoms.com/forum/uploads/post-11-1126667652.jpg
http://352ndfg.com/IL2/images/352/Skins/CAM.jpg



There is tons of them, just google P51D Scheme.

another_finn
08-21-2008, 03:34 PM
There is tons of them, just google P51D Scheme.
I did - that's the problem! Too many great schemes to choose from :D

I'm kinda partial to the silver "Old Crow" at the moment, but I might still change my mind. Bud Anderson flew three Old Crows, and Flying Styro does the P-51B... Would be cool to build them all, but I don't know of any good kits for the F-105 Thunderchief. I do also like Betty Lee, though - and the decals would be soo much easier to make. Decisions, decisions...

Anything from the "The Blue-nosed Bastards of Bodney" would be up against Matt Halton's amazing HO-T, so it would automatically look bad ;)

Jonny, unfortunately Pimu the cat is just visiting - I lost mine two years ago, but I have dibs on the first tortoise pattern girl this little lady brings to the world. Don't know why, but tortoises are all girls, scary smart and care more about the company they're in than their regular hunting grounds. Great companions, and they'll be right at home in a new place as long as they're with the people they like.

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 03:47 PM
The motor is nice aint it, i took it for just that reason the radial look.

Towerpro is good motor, what i dont like about them and many others is if the shaft bends you have to replace the entire shaft which goes thru the motor... on the one i got the shaft for the prop is seperated.

thinking on Flapperons or just adding flaps to mine for those extra slow flyby's and landings :)

I got the 250 watt motor because i knew i would be glassing the entire thing in, and also running it on 4s (2x 2s 1800's in series)

ZOOOM!!! i can see the wings folding at the end of the loop already LOL

Jonnyheli
08-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Mika I have a tortoise and it is also a girl but there are boy ones:P Its quite easy to tell when they are grown up. Boys have a sharp tail and girls have a rounded tail. Also you can tell by the shape of the hole under their tails.

If you need to find out about tortoises like what they eat etc then let me know.

PS. Do you let yours hibernate in the winter?

-Jonny

another_finn
08-21-2008, 04:00 PM
Mika I have a tortoise and it is also a girl but there are boy ones:P Its quite easy to tell when they are grown up. Boys have a sharp tail and girls have a rounded tail. Also you can tell by the shape of the hole under their tails.

If you need to find out about tortoises like what they eat etc then let me know.

PS. Do you let yours hibernate in the winter?
Oh ****, I almost spurted beer on the monitor reading that in the context of cats :rolling

I was talking about tortoise pattern fur - that's what they call the black-white-fudge colored patchwork camouflage. They're all girls (the boys in that color don't survive past infancy for some reason) and I think the shape under their tails is pretty much universal, not that I've checked ;)

Jonnyheli
08-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Oh lol:o:o. Yes I know what you mean. I get you. Its also the same with ginger cats right? Execpt, sometimes you can get ginger boy cats?

-Jonny

another_finn
08-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Towerpro is good motor, what i dont like about them and many others is if the shaft bends you have to replace the entire shaft which goes thru the motor...
True - but I'm willing to put up with an occasional inconvenience on a $20 motor-ESC-prop combo that gives you 30 oz thrust on a 2.3 oz motor ;)

thinking on Flapperons or just adding flaps to mine for those extra slow flyby's and landings :)
Personally I'd go with flaps, despite the weight gain - flaperons just make the wingtips stall first, and that could get ugly... Maybe spoilerons if I wanted to play with aileron mixing, but I'd hate to turn one of the few truly well-behaved warbirds into an accident waiting to happen.

ZOOOM!!! i can see the wings folding at the end of the loop already LOL
I think it's safe to say it'll be a bit more lively than the stock powerplant :YeaBaby:

What prop are you thinking of running - the stock four blader? I believe I'll go conservative at first, and use a GWS 8040 for 27 oz thrust and 46 mph pitch speed... I don't really want to pilot a fast dot in the sky, so I'm looking for vertical performace rather than maximum speed.

another_finn
08-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Oh lol:o:o. Yes I know what you mean. I get you. Its also the same with ginger cats right? Execpt, sometimes you can get ginger boy cats?
Yes, I think they have similar traits - and her mistress is actually looking for a ginger boy to introduce to this young lady. I think the odds of getting tortoise pattern offspring are greatest with a ginger male.

Jonnyheli
08-21-2008, 04:39 PM
Lol cats are cute:) Mine is sitting opposite me looking at me typing lol. Mine is completly black. He has about 5 white hairs on his chest. And he has a white patch on his belly:D:smokin: He is 14 now but he is still like when he was young with perfect shiney fur etc. He is very big for a cat!:shock: He has lost some weight now but when he was younger he used to be abit on the big side:D

His name is Bubbles lol:o My sister named him when she was five so dont ask why he has a name like that lol:P

-Jonny

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 04:51 PM
Mr. Finn :) Its all how you shop.

Here is what i got both motor and ESC for 9 euro's.

if i were you i would add this seller to your favorite ebay list... they always have bids going on most of their buy it now items which costs much more, just takes time and patience of looking at their bids every so often... i must have 40 x 30amp esc's won for under 3 bucks each.

here you go, my winning bid on that motor with esc combo.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=270261290188

Hells no! stock prop sucks... got a 10x7 going on her :).. or was that 11x7... have to check when i get home but its one of those..

DierWolf
08-21-2008, 05:03 PM
And Johni... stop molesting cats!

Jonnyheli
08-21-2008, 05:13 PM
And Johni... stop molesting cats!

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::pukeYou think bad thaughts:thumbdown:

:)

-Jonny

another_finn
08-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Mr. Finn :) Its all how you shop.
So true - and I wish I had enough time to work the 'Bay... That was a great catch at the price, even when you add shipping costs. Still, shipping was less than $6 on that Towerpro combo, so we got an almost identical deal in Watts per dollar. I do like the shaft arrangement and looks on yours better, though.

Hells no! stock prop sucks... got a 10x7 going on her :).. or was that 11x7... have to check when i get home but its one of those..
My guess would be the 11"... I just put an 11x5.5 on my P-40, and it looks about right on a plane that size. I do like the scale looks of the stock prop, but you're right - it's not really what you want to be turning if you're after performance.

DierWolf
08-25-2008, 04:54 PM
Well Spar is in the wings and Glassed, now i am making it all smoooshhh and soft :) Then thinking on if i should use paint or aluminium tape for covering :) Ahh details details, at least i dont have to worry about power.

Test flew it with the new motor and its now way to fast LOL, wings practically folded in a U shape on the turn (At 1/2 throttle), brought her in right away after that and started doing the spar LOL.

PS yes 11x7 Airscrew Master..

may cut her down to 10.5 get a little more rpm out of her.

another_finn
08-25-2008, 05:55 PM
Sounds great :thumbup:

The weekend wasn't quite so good for my foamies... I tested a dab of epoxy resin on the wing, and it seemed safe enough - but the damn stuff ate away my tailfeathers! Also big gouges in the fuselage where I reinforced key ground contact areas. Not sure yet if it's salvageable. If not, I just can't bring myself to pay three times the price for a replacement, now that Hobby City no longer carries them. If I can't save the mini, the next 'Stang is probably going to be an Ultrafly.

I also found out the Towerpro shafts like to break instead of bending. I still don't know what happened, but the P40 suddenly started acting incredibly tail heavy... It was literally all over the sky, making spontaneous backflips with the tiniest control input. Somehow I managed to bring her down in one piece, but the prop took a piece out of the air intake lip as it went flying off with the spinner. The good news is those motor shafts are easy to replace, and it gave me the incentive I needed to reinforce the flimsy vac-formed nose molding. Now it's so heavily armored it'll probably be the only part of the plane to survive a nosedive ;)

DierWolf
08-25-2008, 10:33 PM
Strange, i use epoxy all the time to repair my broken foam, 5 minute epoxy, i also used 60 minute 2 ton epoxy on the firewall for the new motor without any problems.

another_finn
08-26-2008, 05:13 AM
I also use epoxy extensively in construction and repairs - but this was a finishing resin that I haven't tried before. I probably didn't have enough hardener mixed in, as the stuff took a long time to cure and the damage only became apparent after it had been on for about an hour. I probably would have got away with it if I could have made it harden faster.

Live and learn...

Real_Sparky
09-08-2008, 09:51 AM
I'm reviving this thread just got mynew helicave installed.
Check it out.

Got an old kitchen from a friend and installed it in the garage, always trying to save the planet me, recycle, recycle, recycle.:thumbup:

Darin

DierWolf
09-08-2008, 09:57 AM
NICE!!!!!

another_finn
09-08-2008, 10:00 AM
Ye gods, it's so... organized.

I couldn't keep my spares and tools that tidy if I glued them to the wall. Damn things are always creeping all over the place the moment I turn around ;)