Heli stabilizer

[hommer75]

I came across this site today; http://www.heli-stabilizer.com/en/ while looking for something like a Helicommand or AP2000i. I've tried seachring helifreak but I can't find any post on this.

Does anyone use these or read something about this? It looks like it does all I expect from an Hc/Ap2000i and it beats them cost wise. Is it a real alternative?

[Ruud Westerhout]

Never heard of them, but looking at the site, I am quite sure my 600 gets a HeliCommand when I am ready, not going for that price difference for an unknown brand.

Cheers,
Ruud

[SeaHawk]

never heard of them, but that's what everyone said about helicommand when it first came out. You'll find plenty of positive comments about helicommand and ap2000i hear.

[Tonystott]

The General Lazer stabiliser has been around for a long time. I believe it uses IR sensor for horizon levelling

[franky92]

is it good?

[Tonystott]

Sorry, I don't know. I bought an AP2000i which is marvellous - thoroughly recommended

[hommer75]

I can't seem to find any shop which sells the AP200i & FMA in europe, which I'd prefer (waranty etc). The sensor on the heli stabilizer looks basically the same as an FMA sensor for the AP2000i. The control unit is probably nowhere near the AP2000i since the AP2000 has a richer feature set. I doubt if you can tweak the heli stabilizer at all. But then again, I just want stabilization and probably won't use all the features on an AP2000i.
I've found some information about this stabilizer on www.rc-heli.de which I have yet to read completely (my german is quite rusty).

[MarkWebber]

Not sure how well it works. I'm not sure how they calculated that it's less expensive. 229 euros is working out to $362 at todays exchange rate. I guess it's possible that the quoted amount is not current. I wonder if it actually lets one purchase at that price.

Good luck with your selection.

[Skint Eastwood]

both units available from belgium here http://www.rcmarket.org

[Skint Eastwood]

i think i will go with the heli stabilizer version as all i want is to be able to flick a switch and recover from a disorientation, not interested in using it to hover

[Skint Eastwood]

http://data.robbe-online.net/robbe_pdf/P1122/P1122_1-8069.pdf

this is a product manual pdf from robbes site

[Tonystott]

Please let us know how you go, as we have never heard from anyone else with the Lazer product.

(BTW I think you are very brave)

[hommer75]

Not sure how well it works. I'm not sure how they calculated that it's less expensive. 229 euros is working out to $362 at todays exchange rate. I guess it's possible that the quoted amount is not current. I wonder if it actually lets one purchase at that price.

An Ap2000i with FMA and cable sums up to $280 on your webshop and I asume that with shipping I'll be around $310. This equals to 196 euros (great exchange rates these days). But you have to take in to account that the customs here will probably billl you 19% VAT and an incheck fee which adds up to appox 250 euro.

[Tonystott]

Why not buy it from Spartan in UK directly?

[MarkWebber]

Why not buy it from Spartan in UK directly?


They've closed their webshop.

I did miss that part that VAT was included. That would do it.

[Breton91]

hello everybody,

my first contribution to this forum. I agree with tonyscott, in europe go to this page :

http://www.spartan-rc.com/dealers.php

exchanges rates with us is the best for us, but what about guarantees, custom taxes, ...

[hommer75]

I agree with you on the warrany issue, that's my concern as well. RealRaptors seems to be the only place that sells the AP2000 in europe but they don't sell the FMA sensor...

[MarkWebber]

No matter which dealer you purchase from, the warranty is fully supported by Spartan. They are great about that.

I don't remember the shops name but there was one in the UK that was selling the FMA sensors. Wish I could be of more help on that.

[hommer75]

One question Mark, I know you don't now the stabilizer in this toppic but I guess you get a reasonable clue to what is does. In what way would the AP2000i with an FMA be different?? The AP2000 is suited for lots more that just stabilization, what other benifits would it bring?
Come on try and sell me one ;)

[cbergen]

One thing you can CERTAINLY count on is after the sale customer service!!

Help with setup, if needed, questions answered, if needed, quickly and accurately.

We've added the Spartan AP2000I onto a number of systems for customers, to include this $12,000 system, http://helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=48941&d=1211545710 . Whenever there was a question or concern, it was answered immediately.

Sometimes you have to wait for the product, this is due to it's popularity which would NOT be the fact if it did not do as advertised.

My .02. :)

[DierWolf]

The unit above looks like uncased cpd4 from FMA and their FS8 which sadly looks like they are about to stop making simply becuase of the types of mindsets above (cheap price=cheap product) which is definately not true with the FMA FS8 Flight system.

so now it looks like i'm stuck forking out more money for a product that does the same thing.

Sad really, really sad.

[cbergen]

Which product are you talking about, the General Lazer or the AP2000I?

[hommer75]

FMA had a same device as the General Laser which included a receiver, the FS8. They seem to have replaced it with a cheaper CPD4 (????).

[Tonystott]

The unit above looks like uncased cpd4 from FMA and their FS8 which sadly looks like they are about to stop making simply becuase of the types of mindsets above (cheap price=cheap product) which is definately not true with the FMA FS8 Flight system.

so now it looks like i'm stuck forking out more money for a product that does the same thing.

Sad really, really sad.

You obviously have not heard the numerous complaints about the poor performance of the radio component in the FS8..

[cbergen]

The CPD4 is only the IR sensor. The FS8 was a little particular, and it was PPM only which is not recommended for gassers....The ribbon wire FMA used required careful handling.

The IR sensor works very well, however, I haven't had one fault on me yet.