See-saw arms & Head Dampers

[Hover_X]

OK, I have what is probably a couple very basic questions here but have not been able to find answers elsewhere...

I have seen a lot of talk here on the forum about see-saw arms being a weak point on the G200. Which part is the see-saw arm? In the parts list I see the See-saw set (203620) and the See-saw spindle (203625) but no see-saw arms.:confused:

Second, I have seen some posts about head dampers. What are the head dampers, and what do they do?

Thanks!

[rotorhead58d]

http://www.readyheli.com/203580_CNC_See_Saw_Arms_Hurricane_200_p/203580.htm

these are the seesaw arms.



http://www.readyheli.com/203849_Spindle_Shaft_Pack_for_SSD_Main_Rotor_Yoke_ p/203849.htm

this is the spindle shaft, that runs through the head block. the rubber o rings are the head dampeners. they isolate vibration from the blades, so it doesn't transfer energy to the main shaft. some 220's have no problems with the head dampeners being too loose, some do.

[rotorhead58d]

i again stress the importance of watching the finless bob videos. he does not use the gaui 200 as an example in his heli skills and basics 101 video, but it can, and will apply to any good heli. try and find the time to watch them. you can get them on cd. just pm bob.

kevin

[Hover_X]

Thanks for the reply. I had a feeling those were the see-saw arms but they are called Mixing Arms in the Gaui Manual.

As far as the link to the Spindle Shaft Pack that you sent, I have a couple more questions.

1. Are those parts part of the 203850 SSD Main Rotor Yoke assembly shown in the Gaui Manual? I don't see that stock number (203849) in the manual.

2. What is SSD?

Thanks

[Hover_X]

i again stress the importance of watching the finless bob videos. he does not use the gaui 200 as an example in his heli skills and basics 101 video, but it can, and will apply to any good heli. try and find the time to watch them. you can get them on cd. just pm bob.

kevin

I have been watching the videos as much as possible and they are very helpful, but I am the type who learns by doing rather than watching, so if I am watching something for the first time that is showing me something that I have yet to run across, it usually doesn't stick until I have had some hands-on experience with it. I use this forum, and other sources to pinpoint issues such as this, then I will target a specific video(s) to watch to further enhance my knowledge in that specific area.

Dan

[rotorhead58d]

I have been watching the videos as much as possible and they are very helpful, but I am the type who learns by doing rather than watching, so if I am watching something for the first time that is showing me something that I have yet to run across, it usually doesn't stick until I have had some hands-on experience with it. I use this forum, and other sources to pinpoint issues such as this, then I will target a specific video(s) to watch to further enhance my knowledge in that specific area.

Dan

ya whatever works for you dude. :thumbup: i will answer as many questions as i can for you.

[J-Heli]

some 200's have no problems with the head dampeners being too loose, some do.

How would you be able to tell whether or not you had a head damping problem?

[rotorhead58d]

How would you be able to tell whether or not you had a head damping problem?


grab your grips and tilt them from side to side. mine feel like there's almost no dampener in side.

[J-Heli]

They rock some, and make a clicking noise. I'll probably put Truebloods in them.

[Hover_X]

So... with regard to the see-saw arms, what are the problems with them? They seem to be the #1 complaint item about the G200?

[Buzzkill]

There too weak. They break easily in a crash. At $16 a pop that equals exspensive crashing when you add blades and maybe one or two more things.

[rotorhead58d]

and isn't it funny that only gaui makes parts for it. genius...:Owned <---us

[Hover_X]

and isn't it funny that only gaui makes parts for it.

Probably because it is still pretty new. I don't remember any aftermarket parts for the T-Rex or any of my prior helis until they had been around for a while and gained momentum as a viable source for 3rd party vendors to invest in. Quality suppliers of aftermarket parts aren't going to waste their resources on something that may fade away in a short time. My hope is that this will not be the case for the G200... but time will tell.:thumbup:

[psindrup]

the rubber o rings are the head dampeners. they isolate vibration from the blades, so it doesn't transfer energy to the main shaft.

To be more precise, they allow the blade rotating into the wind to move upwards due to increased lift, and allow the blade rotating with the wind to move downwards due to reduced lift. ;)

Peter