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Ade_Law
06-01-2008, 02:38 PM
hi guys,

as some of you know i have been running trailing edge grips with modified delta on my 3d and the Odin. This results in crisper cyclics and collective.

The washers between the ball posts and the blade grip total 2mm per grip(2x1mm washers). You need to use bolts that are 2mm longer too.

be aware of the gap between the bolt that holds the washout arms onto the washout and the long link from the swash to the upper mixer arm. Its close but doesnt touch at any combination of collective and cyclic. Check yours to ensure it doesnt touch before flying it.

dont forget to reverse the collective pitch in the swash mix menu!

try it and let me know what you think. A lot of the UK pilots are running it and love the extra response.

Ade

charlie cave
06-05-2008, 12:56 PM
I flipped mine a while back now, it is one of the best things I have done,

Although the knight is great already, this just really sharpens the pitch,

It just feels alot more accurate and faster!

In my opinion its amazing,

try it yourself to find out!

Best Regards

Charlie

erl919
06-06-2008, 12:28 PM
Hey I will try it! I just have to look for a longer bolts and washers.

Will it change maximum pitch settings?

Ade_Law
06-06-2008, 12:42 PM
no but you will need to recheck your zero pitch and adjust the short links accordingly.

Ade

erl919
06-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Ok done. it was an easy mod

... oh I forgot to reverse to swash settings

liaan
06-07-2008, 06:00 AM
erl919,

let us know how feels now

thanks
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erl919
06-07-2008, 10:22 AM
OMG! this mod made me look good! My K3D snaps when I give the command. My friend also noticed the sudden change in the way my K3D fly to the point he borrowed mine to see if it is too twitchy for him. AND guess what he said my heli is more stable but snaps when you give the commend. Now I will practice the very slow flip then suddenly snaps then go slow again. Great mod ADE! thanks for sharing :)

erl919
06-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Oh I'm so excited to fly again tomorrow!!!!!

Ade my Knight brothers likes the idea and they will do it on theirs but they are asking me why would this mod make the Knight fly crispier. please help me explain how why.

liaan
06-07-2008, 11:31 AM
sounds excelent!!
Ade, yes please explain

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Ade_Law
06-07-2008, 01:12 PM
its all to do with how the spindle moves in the damping and how that effects the pitch at the blades.

when you punch collective in the stock setup with leading edge control the spindle moves vertically in the damping slightly and reduces the pitch at the blades.

with trailing edge control it increases the pitch at the blades,

I also played with the delta angle to get it closer to zero delta, this increases the "bite" of the cyclics too.

Ade

liaan
06-07-2008, 01:44 PM
Thanks ade.. simple explination ;-)

do you know why they decided not to do it in factory? just for interest sake

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Ade_Law
06-07-2008, 01:53 PM
it will be factory fitted or atleast an upgrade package that will flip the washout arms over too. this stop the long links being so close to the washout arms. Also the ball posts will be longer so there will be no need for the washers.

They are busy with the atom and the Odin at the moment tho which is why this hasnt appeared yet.

Ade