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KrazyKyle
06-03-2008, 08:54 AM
OK, I think I'm missing something very basic. I just got Phoenix installed, using my DX7. The fixed-wing work fine, but helis have issued with collective. I'm a bit confused on what the sim controls do vs the transmitter. For helis, do you set up a heli model (with pitch curves, flight mode, etc) in the transmitter, or use a plain acro model. I think what threw me was the instruction not to use CCPM.
mkoutnik
06-03-2008, 10:39 AM
In order to fly heli's you have to setup a heli model with pitch and throttle curves. Otherwise, the radio sends airplane command signals instead of heli signals. I have two Phoenix models setup in my DX7 radio, one for airplanes and one for heli's.
KrazyKyle
06-03-2008, 11:07 AM
Yeah...that's what I thought after a good night's sleep. So for example I can copy my T-rex settings to a new model but change the swash setup to 1-servo non CCPM, right?
I have to say...it was kinda cool seeing the heli smoosh itself into the ground in hover mode. You could see the gear compress!
Socal500
06-03-2008, 11:45 AM
Correct.. change to one servo and set up your flight modes.
TheBum
06-03-2008, 11:48 AM
Yeah...that's what I thought after a good night's sleep. So for example I can copy my T-rex settings to a new model but change the swash setup to 1-servo non CCPM, right?
That should work. Even though you could set up the curves in the sim, doing it in the radio is preferred because you can use the flight mode switch to change flight modes. If you set up the curves in the sim and don't have a spare channel in the radio, you have to use a key on the keyboard to switch into and out of idle-up and I think you're limited to one idle-up mode. I'm using the TX from my Blade CX2 for the sim just to save wear and tear on my DX7, so I do use the sim's curves.
Set a model as tho its a mechanical mixed heli.
widower
06-03-2008, 07:43 PM
That should work. Even though you could set up the curves in the sim, doing it in the radio is preferred because you can use the flight mode switch to change flight modes. If you set up the curves in the sim and don't have a spare channel in the radio, you have to use a key on the keyboard to switch into and out of idle-up and I think you're limited to one idle-up mode. I'm using the TX from my Blade CX2 for the sim just to save wear and tear on my DX7, so I do use the sim's curves.
Are you talking about Phoenix?? I don't recall seeing anywhere where you setup curves.
You setup curves on your radio.
TheBum
06-03-2008, 09:13 PM
Sorry, I was mistaken. I think I was thinking of expo, which can be set in the sim.
KrazyKyle
06-04-2008, 06:58 AM
Seems to me, the more you can set up on your transmitter, the better, since that's what you'll be flying with.
After the kids' graduation & sports, I look forward to some good sim time; I've already flown my T-rex (first heli) for real. Sounds odd, but I hope I'm as bad on the sim as I am in reality!
Thanks., all for the good advice!
TheBum
06-04-2008, 07:32 AM
Seems to me, the more you can set up on your transmitter, the better, since that's what you'll be flying with.
Absolutely true. When I was using my DX7 for the sim, I was using expo in the radio rather than in the sim (I don't use expo in either now) and was relying on the radio's curves rather than Phoenix's simulated curves.