ClearView vs Actual Helis

[JMP]

I have been running ClearView for a couple of months now and wonder about how closely the simulator mimics the real helis. As an old plank flyer just getting into helis, I don't want to base my decision on which heli to purchase completely on how well I can control a particular heli in ClearView.

For example I do really well with the Blade CP and Axe CP, not as well with the CP Pro but tolerable, and the Honeybee CP King II is a real handful. Without a little autopilot to dampen the response, the Blade 400 is nore than I can handle.

Strangely enough the T-Rex 450Easy hovers like it is fixed in space, while the other T-Rexes are all over the place.

Just curious how closely the ClearView models are to the real helis. Any input would be most appreciated.

Jerry
jplemons3@tx.rr.com

[neo187i]

A real heli is nothing like the simulator believe me I found this out the hard way.I totalled my heli thinking it was like the sim,I could fly the sim really well even 3d and tried to do the same thing with my real one.I didn't even make it out of a flip before I crashed rotor first into the ground.Then my local hobby shop told me never to think a sim is like flying the real thing they are basically for getting your auriontation right with the correct stick inputs.I don't know what the high end sims are like in realism but my guess is they are all pretty much the same.As for your first heli steer clear of the axe cp,eflight products arn't too bad but for reliability and precision flight go for a stock trex se v1/v2 and set it up for a beginner thats what I am with now after wasting money on all the rubbish ones.hope this helps you.

[sledster]

No sim is exactly like flying an actual heli, and I know that clearview isn't the best sim out there. But the main thing about a sim is to help you learn orientations. i.e. foward flight. Yes, clearview is easy to do flips and other stuff on and isnt that close to a real heli but it will help you learn orientation.

[ptc]

I have a Belt CP that I bought RTF and a bare bones Honey Bee King II that I built out myself.

The real-life HBKII is more tame than the RTF Belt CP and Belt CP is more "jumpy", like the HBKII in Clearview, which is the exact opposite of the models in Clearview.

I suspect the reason may be that my HBKII is not setup for 3D, which I like while still trying to master hovering & Forward Flight.

[sledster]

ptc-
I to have an HBK2 but mine is set up for 3D flying (though im not yet there) My HBK2 is the opposite of the king2 in clearview. My king2 is a very smooth, flying bird, but that is the way it's set up. In my opinion, like I said before, clearview is a good simulator for practicing orientation but nothing beats actually flying. The king2 in clearview acts more like a fixed pitch heli thats not tunes right.

JMP-
Between flying my king2 and i have hovered my uncles HDX-450, which is closly similar to a t-rex, clearview isnt that close to an actual heli, but no sim is like that. Though some do come close. Practicing with your actual heli or if your just getting into helis, clearview isnt the best if you want to go from a sim to a 450. Honestly, this is the way I started, I say get clearview and then get a coaxial (such as an esky lama or a blade cx2) and then once you get good at all orientations go for the 450 but take it slow.

This is just my opinion, some people might tell you to go straight for the 450 or so but i also like the esky lama i have because i can fly it in my house when theres bad weather or to strong of winds.
just my input hope it helps!

-Cory

[neutrocuted]

I couldn't agree more. The cheapies are good for one thing, to help you decide if you are going to stay in the hobby. If you get disgusted with you efforts and the costs involved, drop the hobby like a bad transmission, but if you are like me and know that you want to do this, don't waste your time and money on the cheapies, except to learn how to fly it.

DO NOT DRESS IT UP WITH CNC CRAP!!! Learn to fly it then move up.

I have spent a comparatively kings fortune on this Exceed G2 V2 on parts due to my inexperience, but due to my determination to find the path of least resistance, or rather lowest cost, to master the r/c heli, I have found that the way I went is not the way to go.

I bent the transverse shaft and the main shaft on my $50 CNC rotor head. They are a different size from the stock ones. Stock parts for the repair would have been about $7. Then I found out that they don't sell replacement parts so I have to buy the whole assembly just to get it going again. I decided to go back to the plastic parts to learn how to fly, then I will deep 6 it and get a T-Rex 600e (wish) or maybe a 500, but most likely a 450SE to further my experience to a turbine??!!. I know its quite a way off, but that's my dream.