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kgfly
06-20-2008, 12:40 AM
I am having problems fitting my 8S A123 under the stock plastic canopy. The problem is that the "windscreen" area is too narrow and squeezes up to the front of the pack. If I slide the pack back any further it rubs on the motor :shock: There is so much tension on the canopy that it sheared off one of the aluminium mounts in midair :DOH

Any options for a roomier one ?
Is the Gaui FG canopy roomier than the plastic one ?
What about the Fusuno (http://www.helidirect.com/index.php?cPath=421_425) ones from HD ?
Any other options ?

I thought I saw a photo somewhere of a new plastic canopy from GAUI with a different shape but now I cannot find it and am beginning to doubt I ever saw it !

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

kahn10
06-20-2008, 01:16 AM
fg canopy is wider across the screen area by about or at least 1 cm.its also alot squarer.the new canopy is squarer again and seems roomier tho haven't done side by side comparison.an easy fix is to make a couple of risers and raise the canopy mounts by a cm or two.......gives you the racy look and creates shitloads more room.takes the pressure off the canopy mounts as well

marco

kgfly
06-20-2008, 02:16 AM
Thanks Marco, that is encouraging and making risers is a good and simple idea :)

Good to hear that the FG canopy is 1cm wider, that would make all the difference and should be an easy fit. Any idea where I can see photos of "the new canopy" and is that plastic or FG ?

kgfly
06-20-2008, 02:21 AM
Ah ha, I found this "B type" FRP canopy at ReadyHeli: http://www.readyheli.com/204164_FRP_White_Canopy_B_Type_Gaui_Hurricane_55_p/204164.htm

Half the price of the (very sexy) red-and-white FG canopy too!

kahn10
06-20-2008, 03:51 AM
yeah the riser thing was my answer to the trex cde.........wicked canopy bit of a bugger IT DOESN'T FIT??? if you've got any decent strength servo horns lying around lope off a bit with the last 3 or 4 holes screw it on where the posts screw on and hey presto 2 or 3 different canopy heights to play with'and it actually relieves alot of stress off the canopy.easier to put on without crack.....shit.....crack,,,,SHIT,,,,,,CRA......

worldofmaya
06-21-2008, 01:43 PM
I've a generic Trex 600 canopy lying around which waits for mounting on my Hurri. Trex600 canopy holder fit perfectly through the original holes (on my plastic frame). I've attached a picture, only thing that is missing right now is the lower canopy holder. The only thing that I don't like is that the canopy isn't wider than the Gaui one at the point where my ESC is mounted...
-klaus

Drew816
06-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Marco, post some pics of what you did; sounds interesting...

Happy Flying!

kahn10
06-21-2008, 02:17 PM
you boys gotta be......after going to kenneth risers servo horns sweet as...... thought :oops: haven't actually done one on a hurri......
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52267&stc=1&d=1214071206
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52268&stc=1&d=1214071206
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52269&stc=1&d=1214071206
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52270&stc=1&d=1214071206
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52271&stc=1&d=1214071767
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52272&stc=1&d=1214071767
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52273&stc=1&d=1214071767
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52274&stc=1&d=1214071767


6s ha.....bring on the 8s :smokin: what else....titanium skids:thumbup:should be able to sort out for anyone else using 600 skids.....and should have titanium booms and supports sorted out soon :smokin:

marco

kgfly
06-22-2008, 08:47 AM
Great suggestions and thank you for the photos. I took a look at the riser idea and it seemed to me that it could be a problem with interfering with the swash plate, but I guess not if you have done it successfully. I will see if I can mock up something so I can check if this solution will work for me.

I plan to visit my heli-crack dealer and try on an FG canopy ($57) and also a T600 canopy ($35 in white) to see how they fit around my 8S A123 setup. He doesn't have the new "Type B" Hurri canopy but is investigating to see if he can get it.

Drew816
06-22-2008, 01:08 PM
Hey, what is the "Body Retaining Bracket" part number 204697? In my manual it's under Optional Parts on page 15, upper righthand side. Is this a 'spacer' or stand-off like Marco has built for the Body Retainers? Looks like it to me, and probably Aluminium to boot; but 'free' out of spare servo horns has a nice appeal as well of course. :noteworthy

Just curious...

JaggedEdge
06-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Body retaining bracket. (http://www.readyheli.com/204697_Body_Retainer_Bracket_Gaui_Hurricane_550_p/204697.htm)
They are carbon fiber at readyheli.

$3.

Hey, what is the "Body Retaining Bracket" part number 204697? In my manual it's under Optional Parts on page 15, upper righthand side. Is this a 'spacer' or stand-off like Marco has built for the Body Retainers? Looks like it to me, and probably Aluminium to boot; but 'free' out of spare servo horns has a nice appeal as well of course. :noteworthy

Just curious...

kahn10
06-22-2008, 02:25 PM
ha..... 6am..... just woke up face down on the couch in a pile of shrink wrap and little scewdrivers dog licking my ear.........goddamn heli crack :YeaBaby: (so don't mean it)
ahhhh coffee...... ok...... your stand off to clear the swash has to come out about the same amount as a futaba ster shit more coffee star imeant servo horn......damn it more coffee

Mikej
06-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Heavy night last night Marco ???:cheers:cheers

kahn10
06-22-2008, 02:43 PM
yeah bro:P

kgfly
06-23-2008, 03:47 AM
A very helpful dealer provided me with the following information about the weight of the stock GAUI canopies:


Plastic (white) = 69g
Painted FG = 75g
Type B FRP (white) = 103g

I find it suprising that:

a) The painted FG is only 6g heavier than the white plastic
b) The Type B is almost 50% heavier than both the others :arggg:

With my 8S A123 setup, the last thing I need is an extra 30g hanging out the front of the heli, it's already a whisker nose heavy even with a 9253 mounted out on the long boom! I guess if I had to I could move the tail servo further out along the boom, although that would place it at more risk in a crash so I am somewhat wary of doing so.

Anyone want to weigh their canopy and see if it matches these figures ?
Anyone have one of the Canomod canopies and like to weigh it ?

Mikej
06-23-2008, 04:34 AM
Kenneth,

Just getting the scales out for you - however I had a look at them last night (I have both the original plastic and the type B canopies, and I can't see that the Type B is any bigger.

Mike.

Mikej
06-23-2008, 04:39 AM
Hmm, quite a lot of variation

Original plastic canopy = 76g
Type B canopy 1 = 96g
Type B canopy 2 = 82g

I guess that the Type B canopy 1 is just a bit thicker GRP :dontknow:dontknow

kahn10
06-23-2008, 04:40 AM
painted fg(red grey white canopy) 87.5 g including some super glue....
plastic with a few coats of paint a shitload of superglue and 24 vent slots approx 5mm by 30mm 88.6 g... didn't expect that

kgfly
06-23-2008, 06:35 AM
Thank you guys. My two plastic canopies:

Plastic #1 (paint, some reinforcing): 76g
Plastic #2 (more paint, stickers, more reinforcing/repairs): 86g

Mike - I have not seen either the FG or the TypeB in person but the descriptions of others are that they have a more square profile so are wider not overall, but in the windscreen area across where the top packs sit towards the motor and the the TypeB is even more square than the FG. Does that make sense ? How would you describe the "FRP" material compared to the plastic or FG ?

kahn10
06-23-2008, 07:12 AM
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52533&stc=1&d=1214219237
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52534&stc=1&d=1214219237

Mikej
06-23-2008, 07:42 AM
Mike - I have not seen either the FG or the TypeB in person but the descriptions of others are that they have a more square profile so are wider not overall, but in the windscreen area across where the top packs sit towards the motor and the the TypeB is even more square than the FG. Does that make sense ? How would you describe the "FRP" material compared to the plastic or FG ?

To be honest Kenneth it just looks like good ole Fibre Glass to me - mesh in a resin. I have got my callipers onto the two canopies and the Type B is a few (3 or 4) mm bigger in a few places, but nothing major - if you just need a few mm then it might help, but not of you want 10 - 20mm. The Type B does look nicer though - the FRP / GRP is a nicer finish and arguably a nicer shape.

Cheers,
Mike.

Wazzer
06-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Hey Mike any Chance you can show us some pictures of the Original Fg canopy side by side to the Type 'B' canopy?

Would like to check it out as not seen in person

Thanks

kgfly
06-24-2008, 12:36 AM
Thanks Mike and Kahn. Even a few mm in the right area will help a lot I think. From Kahn's photos the FG does look more generous in the windscreen area where I need it.

Mikej
06-24-2008, 02:07 AM
Hey Mike any Chance you can show us some pictures of the Original Fg canopy side by side to the Type 'B' canopy?

Would like to check it out as not seen in person

Thanks

Sorry Ben - I only have the original plastic and the new Type B

kahn10
06-24-2008, 02:20 AM
mike if i emailed you a shot of my canopy from a et distance on a white background could you paste it beside yours?