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Greg Alderman
06-24-2008, 09:42 PM
I am a little bored with my Turbine after flying it for the past 3 years or so at more events than I can remember...so...I am thinking about showing up to IRCHA with a Flybarless Bergen Turbine...Been talking a little to Chris about it and the head is perfect for supporting a flybarless conversion...and what it does need I can make in my basement on my mill and lathe with out have to bother Chris...for machining of parts...

so...stay tuned...I will post as the project proceeds...my initial issue is I want to run the V-Bar electronics...and they are as scarce as $2.00/ gall gas right now....I have a Skookum 360 and a Helicommand "Rigid" now...but I think I want to not chance the turbine with them and go with a tried and true V-Bar system from Mikado...

I guess we shall see...although...I think my first Bergen Flybarless will be my Tazer...as a proof of concept before I put it in the turbine...

Ron...you need a flybarless Turbine too!!!! :D

uh1b1
06-24-2008, 10:22 PM
greg you have a pm

LITHIUMSTATIC
06-24-2008, 10:34 PM
:)

MarkWebber
06-25-2008, 05:28 AM
'Bout time.:thumbup:

WillJames
06-25-2008, 06:22 AM
Sounds cool Greg!! Can't wait to check it out!! :shock::thumbup:

rkeith2
06-25-2008, 09:37 AM
I was just going to ask if you were producing some extra R&D parts :-)

MarkWebber
06-25-2008, 12:57 PM
No, no sharing with Ron. Then he'll go putting up flight videos of how great it is with the conversion and we'll all be wanting one all that much more.;)

WayneBrown
06-25-2008, 01:34 PM
has anyone told you that you suck lately Greg? :)

v22chap
06-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Again ... you and I were thinking the same thing .... as I want a flybarless for my tazer Super cobra that I hope to do this next winter or so ..... and as usual you are going to beat me to it .... but I am not proud ,,, I will let you break the ground again :thumbup: :YeaBaby:
Good luck and keep us posted ,,,and if you need anything or another head to bounce ideas off of just email or call

lperagallo
06-25-2008, 02:22 PM
Greg,

Put me on the R&D extra parts list so I can be the first to crash a flybarless turbine:banana

Lou

v22chap
06-25-2008, 03:51 PM
Lou :Bang:hug::noteworthy

Greg Alderman
07-06-2008, 11:37 PM
Well...got the official "go ahead" from Chris...and Tod is actually making me some parts...I am asking for completely new set of pitch arms to be made...as I think that will be the easiest way to do the mod...I have already received the modified washout hub that Todd made me (Thanks Todd!!!!! :noteworthy ) ...and just waiting on the blade pitch arms...

It looks as if I will have to be using the Helicommand "rigid" and a spartan ds760/ Futaba BLS251 Servo...

Now if I could only talk Chris out of 3 JR8717 servos! LOL! :D

I was wanting to use the Skookum Robotics 360 flarbarless unit but Art really would like me to hold off..he wants to get into larger helis via small steps...and going from a 4lb Trex500 to a 20lb turbine was a giant leap! and ontop of that...taking to IRCHA!

anyway...once I get the parts...I will install on my Tazer first and then after testing...move it over to my Turbine...so...there is still a good chance of having my flybarless turibine at IRCHA!

Greg

MarkWebber
07-07-2008, 05:37 AM
Sweet!:YeaBaby:

rbort
07-07-2008, 11:09 AM
Would love to join you guys but IRCHA is just WAY too far for me, close to 1000 miles! I will be in Delaware on the 25th weekend, Greg, will you be coming to that one?

-=>Raja.

lperagallo
07-07-2008, 09:33 PM
Greg,

I'll be waiting at your tent at 7:00AM on thursday for a demo flight.:hug: I'll also bring my turbine for you to install it on also so I can test it out all weekend :banana

Lou

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 10:00 AM
Welll...I might be have to admit the turbine might not come as a flybarless to IRCHA...but I did get the first test hover on the flybarless Tazer...it was good for the first test...but have some kind of glitch everyonce in a while...not sure what it causing it...maybe the mounting tape...I did use the zeal stuff...but one big solid piece...the instructions did say to just use a couple of small strips to mount the Helicommand electronics...so will try that after work tonight...

no pics yet as I have just been too lazy...maybe if Mark Webber stops by tonight to help me reinstall the fridge in my camper (cooling unit popped a leak...ugh...expensive repair! yuck) I wil get him to video tape the second test hover...and I will post then...

It may still end up on the turbine...but...unless I am 100% confortable with the performance...I am not going to rush it...all I need to do is plant the turbine while at IRCHA! :arggg:

Greg

MarkWebber
07-25-2008, 12:02 PM
I'll be happy to tape it but make sure you remind me to bring the camera allong.

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 12:33 PM
i have one now...so don't need to bring camera! :D just you and your muscles...fridge it ready to go back in to position...just waiting on you...where the heck are you! LOL

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Test hop 2 during lunch...what ever I did...change mounting tape? move Helicommand cable so not touching Aileron servo wire? or charge the RX pack? (oops...I forgot that it was a new Outrage RX pack that hadn't been charged! :oops:) But what ever the glitch was caused by...it is gone now...

Now I am itch'n to get out of my front yard and go fly it! Maybe the flight that Mark videos will be over at the farm where I can at least fly around with it...

getting excited now...want to get 20 or 25 flights on the head and the electronics then will decide if I will transfer over to the turbine for IRCHA

rkeith2
07-25-2008, 04:30 PM
Videos G Man

Videos

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 08:30 PM
well...got a short video...but have no idea how to get it on the site...still have to figure out how to get it off my Camera! Wasn't a very long flight...and although very steady...I need to adjust the settings on the electronics as it flipped sort of slow...and rolled evvvvveeeeeennnnnn slower...has to be the set up as I have 9 degrees of cylic set in...and could go more...but 9 on a flybarless should roll very quickly...

Greg

MarkWebber
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Dang, should've used my camera or let me bring yours home. I've got a firewire that I could have pulled the video with.

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 08:47 PM
naw....I am pulling the video right now...hooked it up to my iMac and it pulled iMovie right up and so of leading me through the steps...

rkeith2
07-25-2008, 09:56 PM
You are a big tease Greg

Greg Alderman
07-25-2008, 10:31 PM
well...you can sure tell I have no idea what I am doing yet with video editing! I have no idea how to get it on HF so I have uploaded to You tube...I also have no idea how I managed to get the first part of the video to play at the end? So go ahead and laugh your butts off...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHb9VDCisEg

:D

Greg