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majuro15
06-24-2008, 09:49 PM
Well, I have been following all the threads on here closely and since I'm almost done with my S76 fuselage, I decided to bit the bullet and buy a four blade head.

First let me say that I was horrified of the quality that I might get, but still managed to keep an open mind. I ordered it from Flying-Hobby.com out of the UK. They were out of stock for a long time and finally got some in last week. I was hoping that they would be the "new" batch from LH.

And indeed, I think it was!!!!! I got it assembled in a plastic bag, that's it. Not surprised though. The main head is a stainless steel as are the blade grips. THe head of course has the Jesus bolt but it also has two pinch bolts opposite of each other that helps stabilize it on the shaft. The grips are one piece so I didn't have the issue of replacing those screws. The driver is also stainless steel and a different design. It has all ss links, not the plastic like Align.

I immediately noticed, however that one of the grips looked crooked, like the blade would hang low. I decided to pull it all apart and take a look.

What I found is, as had been said before, the links and the balls sucked. I replaced all of them with Align balls from the 600 and my 450 (on the swash). I also got the links from a 600 to replace the LH ones. The blade holder was crooked because of the spacer they use was cheap aluminum. It was not cut straight, causing the problem. I replaced the main blade grip bolts with alloy ones and replaced the spacers with good aluminum ones. (I am a manager for Grainger, we have everything!)

I found the bearings to be good, and the grips spin freely upon reassymbly. I also like how they use a set screw to hold in the blade grip bolts. Those were flat bottom set screws which I replaced with hex cone ones. (again from Grainger).

All in all, I spent about $25 between new links, balls and hardware. After that, I installed and hoped for the best.

I haven't flown it yet (that's the hard part!) but did spool it up and it was as solid as a rock. No wobble, no rust in the shaft, no tracking issues with the blades. The swash does wobble about three mm at full rpm, but I can handle that. It may get replaced with an Align down the road.

Overall opinion: Well worth the money. Granted, they should use quality links and balls, but we all have extras lying around right? With a little TLC, this thing is sweet!

I'll keep everyone posted on flight reports later this week.

majuro15
06-29-2008, 02:39 AM
Not too many takers on this thread, but for those that are following, the head got its first true spool up tonight. I threw some Align woodies on there just to test it and had a real bad wobble. I thought for a minute that it might be the follower taking the whole thing out of balance, but two of my blades were almost a gram off. That fixed, the head is smooth as silk.

I'm about 75% sure that the phasing is correct as I did some testing in the house tonight with rain outside. More to follow with pics tomorrow.

ChasHeliCop
07-10-2008, 10:38 PM
Where's the pics :confused:

Buzzkill
07-10-2008, 10:47 PM
+1

Wazzer
07-16-2008, 11:16 PM
We are following we are following!!

Tell us more about your complete set up?

Are you using any Digital flybar systems?

how have you got your pitch and cyclic settings?

More info more info!

rotorhead58d
07-19-2008, 02:33 AM
:whip

ChasHeliCop
07-19-2008, 07:45 AM
:Pics

majuro15
07-19-2008, 11:43 PM
Okay, finally some pics. The new job and great flying (real fixed wing!) weather has sidetracked the heli project.

http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55545&stc=1&d=1216525204

I tried to get some close ups but they still came out blurry. Here are a couple of the best ones.

http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55546&stc=1&d=1216525204

I still have a little slop in the follower. It's flying fairly well. I may try to think up something in the future. The slop comes from the bolts through the bearings. If they are just a hair too small, it will wobble.

http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55547&stc=1&d=1216525204

So, sorry about the wait on the pics. Let me know what you all think!

greenking
07-20-2008, 02:08 AM
Is that a 4 blade tail........on the 'other' side.....? Where did you get that?

Akulla
07-20-2008, 02:13 AM
That is looking really nice. And ill echo the above comment, is that a 4 blade tail and where did you get it.. Because have been searching high and low for one!!

Rgds
Aidi

Super-Hornet
07-20-2008, 03:05 AM
That 4 bladed tail rotor looks like a cascading type. It can easily DIY it yourself.

SH

majuro15
07-20-2008, 01:32 PM
Yup, it's a cascade type. Not scale for the S76 that this is going in, but looks cool enough. I have also found that it helps tail control vs. a two bladed tail rotor. The thread is on another forum. Here's the link. If it's illegal to post, I'll remove it.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t392402p1/?highlight=trex+four+bladed+tail

Thanks for the comments and for the patience with the pics!