[600 3d flybarless] what are the best dampeners?

[Dynamic]

What are the best (stiffest) dampeners to use with the logo 600 3d flybarless head, or are the stock dampners more then acceptable?

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

I'm happy with stock but some use K&B.

Disregard..... I didn't see flybarless. I'm still running the 1940's flybar stuff.

[uragano47812]

For flybarless head i reccomend only the original one.

[Flybar-less]

Stock 3092 with 2 washers per side works well.

I helped setup a Trex (Mikado gips) with K&B greens, and had to run the AOF filter more aggressively to eliminate the Elevator oscillations.

I hear good things about the K&B greens with one washer, don't know about AOF numbers.

[Eyon]

either standard extra hard x3
or KB orange + 1x extra hard mikado one

Ian

[Dynamic]

Thats what I was waiting to hear. My K&B oranges came in the mail today and I wanted someone to confirm my idea that they would be good :)

[Griffo]

I've just set mine up with K&B greens with one stock Mikado dampner per side. Works BEAUTIFULLY!

[Eyon]

i dont get it, which are harder? green or orange? i was lead to believe orange was, but if green are, i want greeeeeen :D

[uragano47812]

i dont get it, which are harder? green or orange? i was lead to believe orange was, but if green are, i want greeeeeen :D

From K&B site: Green is our medium stiffness,. Yellow is our hard for more radical pilots and Orange is our extreme 3D Dampener.

[ShuNut]

What about F-Bar 6003D, which are best for 3D flying ? Stock or K&B If k&b which ones ?

[helicraze]

I just use the stock ones

[robmoney]

Dynamic,

Flybar-less and I setup my T600 8s machine with V-stabi and it is a truly awesome performer.

The K&B green are perfect for the v-bar system. You actually run a little softer dampening on the v-bar than on a flybar machine...

So far they are working great....

[Eyon]

that seems illogical to me. surely you want a rock hard head for most effective use of gyro gain? soft head it will constantly counteract the microscopic head rocking out of elevator manoeuvres.

Maybe worth an experiment, but im very happy with my impossibly solid head :)

[billyd]

I'm using the stock ones with my 5003d vstabi (that came with the flybarless head). I can't imagine this heli could fly better than it does.

I would be shocked if Mikado engineers would pick dampeners that were not ideal for the flybarless head, they designed it along with the vstabi system.

[Griffo]

LOL, yes the Mikado dampners are fine.
As for using the K&B dampners well all I can say is don't knock it till you've tried it. It's not like they're mega expensive so what have you got to loose?

[billyd]

You're right of course griffo, and if I were a better pilot I could probably tell the difference! :YeaBaby:

[OICU812]

I have 2 600 machines now trying the K&B Greens with one 3092 Xtra Hard damper on each side, seems to track and work very well, did not change any Vstabi parameters either.

[uragano47812]

The K&B will work also for L500 v-bar or they are too much for a 550mm heli?

[OICU812]

The green K&B work perfectly fine on the 5003D with or without flybar, I am using them on mine currently.

[BruceW]

I like how the K&B orange work on my Logo5003D (flybar). The head is very sturdy and I get no oscillations although others have reported some with the orange. I also sanded mine down so I can get the spacer ring to fit.