Fuel shortage - what are your plans

[spdntckt]

Just curious on what folks are thinking about the fuel shortage.. In my opinion if nitro fuel continues to be $35/$40/gallon for 30% i will likely run exclusively 90 sized helis on 15% (for less than $20 a gallon).. i find my synergy runs WAY better on 15% then my trex does on 15%.. I think a 90 sized heli just has much more reserve power. perhaps a movement to Trex700's for this reason?

[sonofcar]

I just brought 4 cases a couple weeks ago (cy wildcat30%) for 343. Thats all the wildcat they had. I am thinking of going and buying some cases of cool power that they have left, and they are still selling it for 21.50. That way i will make it threw this rought time( the great fuel depression of 2008)

[Gmoney]

PREDATOR!

5.00-7.00$ per gallon:thumbup:

Hope to snag a Spectra G in the next couple weeks..

[erniefritz]

I will be running my Trex 700 on 30% CoolPower.... 15% just doesn't have the punch... if 30% goes to $40 a gallon , 15% isn't gong to be much cheaper. might as well go with the 30%

Now what i can see is a lot of people going to install a OS .60 instead of a .90 and running 690 blades instead of 710's , it will be less powerful but will work and have a longer flight time than a .90

It would probably be like running a Miniature Aircraft - Fury .60 with 690 blades.... except a little lighter...

[CoronaL]

I had 3-4 cases of CY Wildcat 30% in my basement. Friend and I ordered 20 more cases of CY Wildcat 30% and it arrived yesterday. We also bought 12 cases of 15% nitro 2/4 cycle airplane fuel, which I emailed the president at Wildcat who confirmed it's the same as 15% Wildcat helimix with a different dye. LHS had that 15% in stock so we bought that and are mixing 1/2 and 1/2 of each to create gallons of 22.5% nitro at about 19.5% oil content. Had to retune my motors, but they are making great power(50 OS hyper and 53 TT redline). I think my YS91 ST or OS 91SZ will run probably as good or better on the 22.5% nitro blend as both are stock shimmed. Granted maybe not quite as much power, but should be smoother, and I can face the facts that I'm way too horrible to notice the difference in power hehe!

[Grant_beltcp]

Why order so much? I'm not being funny but are you really going to use up over 80/85gallons in a matter of months? I very much doubt it.
I see this as making the fuel shortage MUCH worse for the general heli flyer, so the people who need it cant get it.
Its people that impulse buy the stuff thats causing the problem.

[dsmit258]

We bought 72 gallons of Magnum 30% last year at IRCHA as part of our yearly fuel run. Didn't fly as much this year, so we still have about 50 gallons left, so not too worried about running of of fuel anytime soon....

[Dflyer]

I must say that i totally agree with Grant_Beltcp, don't panic and make sure that every pilot can have some fuel instead of buying all stocks dry !

Grtz,
Dirk

[CoronaL]

Why order so much? I'm not being funny but are you really going to use up over 80/85gallons in a matter of months? I very much doubt it.
I see this as making the fuel shortage MUCH worse for the general heli flyer, so the people who need it cant get it.
Its people that impulse buy the stuff thats causing the problem.
why? Because we could, and it will probably save $ down the road. I don't need permission from forum members on how I spend my $. Our LHS didn't want to order more 30% fuel. We are getting 700 sized choppers. Would have probably been down to 2 cases by then which I expect to burn 1+ gallons per outing. Do the math. We would have been out of fuel and forced to pay the LHS asking price of $50 per gallon. Personally, I have more of a problem with that, versus ordering 20 cases to split with my friend and paying $23.5 ea gallon. But whatever, call me a hog or greedy or whatever. I really don't care! I'm not really inclined to sit here and worry about people not preparing for their flying.

[zsultan]

Whats the cost of one gallon of 30% now after shortage?

Thanks

[REGULATER]

I agree with CoronaL , If you sit and wait for fuel to become avaible you will pay twice as much for the same product. I did the same thing and we orderd a pallet of fuel two split up with my bud's. I figure i saved a least $ 400.00 buck by buying it up front.on 7 cases. Ether pay now or pay double later?

REGULATER

[cbdane]

I really don't care!


Bingo. Artificial demand created by avarice and fear.

[gadawg58]

My 10 cases just arrived so I think I'm good! :)

[CoronaL]

My 10 cases just arrived so I think I'm good! :)
hold out gadawg58
you'll be cast into the pit of sinners and greed monger's like I am if you claim to have anymore than 1-2 gallons stocked. I think it's hillarious! Like there are freaking "fuel ethics". Come on!!! Maybe we should ask who stocks fuel to pay extra taxes. Or maybe we should say, if you have 2 or more gallons of fuel, you should have to buy a gallon for a "needy neighbor". Yeah, no thanks! I pay enough taxes and bs "extras" already. The $ I have extra after the theifs in Washington and Springfield take their share, I should be able to spend how I damm well please.

[cation3]

GADawg: There are plenty of guys out at CCRC who would love to buy some of that. OK, fine... just me! LHS has about 20 bottles of Byron 30% for sale at FIFTY DOLLARS A GALLON ($49.99). I was gonna buy a gallon of 15% for $23, but left empty handed on principle alone. All I have left as of today, is the half tank in the 600 to keep the fuel magnet wet.

Damn fuel shortage....

-Drew

[wcc963]

my LHSis limiting people to 1 case per week of 30% CP. so that no one can come in and wipe them dry.

[Doc Robot]

hold out gadawg58
you'll be cast into the pit of sinners and greed monger's like I am if you claim to have anymore than 1-2 gallons stocked. I think it's hillarious! Like there are freaking "fuel ethics". Come on!!! Maybe we should ask who stocks fuel to pay extra taxes. Or maybe we should say, if you have 2 or more gallons of fuel, you should have to buy a gallon for a "needy neighbor". Yeah, no thanks! I pay enough taxes and bs "extras" already. The $ I have extra after the theifs in Washington and Springfield take their share, I should be able to spend how I damm well please.

Wow.

Ya know, another Freak posted their thoughts on the matter (politely, I might add) and you've flipped about it. You've obviously disagreed with it, as you have a perfect right to do, BUT...

It wasn't a personal attack. No one is expecting you to get "permission from forum members" to buy anything. No one has "cast [you] into the pit of sinners and greed monger's" as you're claiming.

"Fuel ethics?" You said that, not anyone else. And no one was asking you to be charitable.

Why don't you cut the dude a break, eh? I really don't think anything inflammatory was meant by the comment. :)

"Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect."

[zsultan]

Guys,

I was planning on getting a 600N, but holding off the decision because of nitro shortage. Do you guys think nitro will go back to good old $20 gallon for 30% after olympics?

Thanks

[Doc Robot]

Guys,

I was planning on getting a 600N, but holding off the decision because of nitro shortage. Do you guys think nitro will go back to good old $20 gallon for 30% after olympics?

Thanks

That's what the current (hopeful) assumption is. I'd imagine it's going to take a little longer than most folks are expecting after the conclusion of the Olympics for things to go back to normal, but we'll see. Maybe by next fall at the latest?

Let's keep the fingers crossed!

[Gmoney]

My LHS is reaming consumers.. HE doubled his price and is still workig off the pallets of fuel he has in the back.. Literally doubled his price.. NO more fuel from him until things are back to normal..

[Doc Robot]

My LHS is reaming consumers.. HE doubled his price and is still workig off the pallets of fuel he has in the back.. Literally doubled his price.. NO more fuel from him until things are back to normal..

I know some folks here might not agree with this, but I find this business practice among one of the most despicable. Why would you do this to loyal customers? I understand supply and demand, needing to make a living, etc. but this is just low, IMO.

[DavidH]

My LHS is reaming consumers.. HE doubled his price and is still workig off the pallets of fuel he has in the back.. Literally doubled his price.. NO more fuel from him until things are back to normal..


Look at this way. The LHS is going to have to replace the stock of fuel. So he is selling the current stock at the price the new stock is going to cost him. Business's do that everyday. Just look to your local gasoline stations. The price is changing everyday, it is going up and down. Yet the station still has the same gasoline in the storage tanks in the ground. They have not had to buy any, even thou they change the price. They are going on the prices of what the gasoline is going to cost them to replace the gas in the storage tanks at there station.

David

[gadawg58]

Look at this way. The LHS is going to have to replace the stock of fuel. So he is selling the current stock at the price the new stock is going to cost him. Business's do that everyday. Just look to your local gasoline stations. The price is changing everyday, it is going up and down. Yet the station still has the same gasoline in the storage tanks in the ground. They have not had to buy any, even thou they change the price. They are going on the prices of what the gasoline is going to cost them to replace the gas in the storage tanks at there station.

David
Just to set the record straight on gas pricing ... I work for a chain that has a little over 500 stations and we turn over the inventory in the tanks almost everyday! So, there isn't a lot of changing price while the same gas sits in the ground. Competitors pricing also has a huge impact on what the price gets set at. Just thought a little "real" information might help! :)

[DavidH]

The key word you used is chain. I would think the gas cost is set by corporate office. I am friends with owners of several gas stores here in the area. They are not part of a chain. They are independent owners of major brand fuel stations. Each one of them makes a phone call every morning to there distributors to see what gasoline is going to cost them. They adjust there prices according to what they would have to pay and what there competitors are charging. Gas prices go up a lot quicker than they come down when the price of gas has went down. These stations get a tanker load of gas daily every couple of days also
It is just smart business for business to adjust there prices to what it will cost them to resupply.

David

[PacketSpike]

I now have 16 gallons of 30% and 6 gallons of 15% - I think that I should be fine till the end of the summer.

Ontario will be dry soon I tell ya.

Spin master - come on lets try to scare the market... ;-)