14mz + ungrouping end points across flight conditions

[jambo]

How do I ungroup the end points so I can have channel 10 setup for different end points across the different flight conditions (normal,idle, etc)

In addition is there anyway of changing the minumim enpoint values to less than 30%?

[flyinfool]

Normaly you use the ATV in the linkage menu, to set the mechanical limits of the linkage.
That is why they do not have the ability to ungroup them.
If you want to set different throws in diferent flight modes then use the AFR in the model menu to set the throw in each contition, this can be grouped or ungrouped.

[jambo]

Yes I understand what you are saying but comparing to my old 9ZHP the atv's could be set differently across the flight conditions. This was used as per the Revlock instructions to setup the remote channel for controlling head speed. This was done by changing the ATV in each mode on the AUX1 channel. In addition I noticed that the ATV's lowest limit is 30% which is too high to setup the lowest engine RPM's on he revlock. :(

I have kind of found a way round it by using the GOV menu, but this is a bit of a pain as I now need to use both Mode A & B on the Revlock and therefore have no way of turning it off if I want revlock on in normal/idel1/idles2. I will therefore have to sacrafice normal flight mode (A) to be in non governor mode so I can turn the revlock off in mode A and on for mode B in idle1&2 with differnet gov settings from the gov menu. :dontknow

[cwbonner]

jambo,

you can still assign an on/off switch on the gov menu. there is a siwtch option there, and I use that to have an on/off switch. Then you can have separate speeds in normal I1 and I2, and an on/off switch as well.

[jambo]

wow - how do I do that?

[cwbonner]

In the GOV screen, there is a switch option. Hit that, select what switch you want to use, and then hit the on posi. button and select which direction you want to use as on. Then that switch will turn the gov on and off. I think you need to assign this switch for all conditions. The gov screen will indicate on/off as you flip that switch.

[jambo]

Are you sure this will work with the Revlock?

[Frank Toorenburg]

Your 14 will not know what is on the other side :wink:

The GOV setting is just a % of the servo travel (on apointed channel)
so also very handy for all the non GV-1's. (just leave the display on % and not on RPM!

[cwbonner]

jambo,
Yes, I have 2 revlocks working this way right now. Have verified that the revlock does in fact shut off.

[jambo]

Well I have got the gov working in I1 and I2 and turn it off in normal, but would like it set in normal also. With my 9ZHP I coud have te gov set to on in normal, I1, I2 and have an on/off for all modes.

I haven't found a way to turn it on/off in any mode other than normal :( Perhaps I'm missing something else!

[cwbonner]

I thought maybe a more detailed description would help. Sorry, this is a little long, but here goes:
Here is a step-by-step revlock setup for the 14mz using the 5014 rx.

1. Go to the linkage>function menu and reassign the GOV1 function to channel 10, and I also reassign channel 7 to an unused function. I use channel AUX3, but it shouldn’t matter. The GOV2 function doesn’t need to be reassigned, since it is not used. The control and trim options should be set to null.

2. If not already done, do the initial calibration as described in the revlock manual. Press set to bypass the sensor test.


3. If you have already done throttle curves, you will need to make sure the throttle channel goes below 50% to get to the speed range setting part of the revlock in I1 and I2. I just set my low stick throttle curve value to 0%, and then when I’m done I reset it to the original value.

4. In the Model>Governor menu, with the flight mode switch in the normal position, ungroup the rate 1 line, and activate it.



5. With the throttle stick at low position, raise or lower the rate from 50% until either of the speed range LED’s light. One direction will be “A”, and the other will be “B”. It doesn’t matter which one you use.

6. Once one of the speed range LED’s lights solid, choose your speed range with the set button. For this example lets say we want to set 1600 normal and 1700 I1, and 1800 I2 with an 8.45 ratio, so that would mean we need: 1600*8.45=13,520 normal, 1700*8.45=14,365 I1, and 1800*8.45=15210 I2, so for normal we need to choose the 11,000 speed range. Press set until that speed range is lit.

7. Then move the throttle stick up and change the rate in the same direction you went to initially light the speed range LED until the proper offset LED’s light as described in the revlock manual.

8. To assign an on/off switch, activate the switch option, choose the desired switch (I use F), and then choose the direction that should be on (on posi). This should then make the act column for rate 1 switch from ON to OFF when the switch is flipped.

9. Switch to I1; verify that rate 1 is ungrouped (it should be), and then repeat the setting procedure as described from 4 above. In this example you will need to go the opposite direction in the rate setting because you need to be in a different speed range (14,000). I assign the same on/off switch and position in all flight modes. You can then switch to I2 and do the same procedure.

10. Switch to hold and verify that the rate shows INH so the GOV will be disengaged in hold.

11. The last thing I do is go to the servo monitor screen and verify that channel 10 is acting as I expected, i.e. centered when the off switch or hold are used, and sending data when not. This will give you three different speeds with an on/off switch that works in all flight modes.

12. If you edited your throttle curves, don’t forget to change them back.

The only difference in setting up a PCM1024 rx is you wouldn’t want to reassign the governor function. In theory you should be able to use a three-position switch and have multiple speeds in multiple flight modes, but I haven’t seen the need for this, so I haven’t tried to do it. If anything isn’t clear, let me know and I’ll try to clarify.

[WillJames]

Great info Carl, thank you!!