04-30-2014 06:23 PM |
rdlohr |
In think I will use the Aux2 switch like Scott did, but then solder the momentary trainer switch in series with lead to the Captain Rescue side of the switch. The Aux2 switch will be like an enable for the bailout, then the trainer switch will activate it. I may then use the slider on the right to mix in the amount of leveling like hidaven did.
Rick
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03-04-2014 04:38 PM |
rdlohr |
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Originally Posted by jcflyer
Rick,
I would put the TX in my hands and see where your fingers fall on it, then I would use the closest or easiest switch for me to reach!!!
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Good advice. I'm starting to think the CR should be on the Trainer switch on the left side. It is in the exact spot TH is on the right, its momentary, and its almost a natural response to hit it. Couple wire moves and that would be a done deal.
Rick
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03-04-2014 03:26 PM |
jcflyer |
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Originally Posted by rdlohr
Not sure which way I will go. I did play with the mixing a bit and was able to use my right side dial (aux3) for the first time. That mix menu is powerful. I'm surprised I never messed with it before.
Rick
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Rick,
I would put the TX in my hands and see where your fingers fall on it, then I would use the closest or easiest switch for me to reach!!!
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03-02-2014 11:28 AM |
rdlohr |
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Originally Posted by jcflyer
This may be true for some but, that switch is almost always located at the back of the TX, and I have small hands and have a hard time reaching it compared to one of the switches located up front. Difference being you just have to be ready to flip the switch back after the save!!!
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Not sure which way I will go. I did play with the mixing a bit and was able to use my right side dial (aux3) for the first time. That mix menu is powerful. I'm surprised I never messed with it before.
Rick
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03-02-2014 09:14 AM |
jcflyer |
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Originally Posted by scott s
While not that important it sure as heck is a LOT more convenient and user friendly!!
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This may be true for some but, that switch is almost always located at the back of the TX, and I have small hands and have a hard time reaching it compared to one of the switches located up front. Difference being you just have to be ready to flip the switch back after the save!!!
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03-01-2014 01:10 PM |
rdlohr |
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Originally Posted by scott s
While not that important it sure as heck is a LOT more convenient and user friendly!!
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That's what I was wondering. In what ways Scott. I have no experience with bailouts. Your solution is awesome, by the way. I like KISS.
Rick
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03-01-2014 09:58 AM |
scott s |
While not that important it sure as heck is a LOT more convenient and user friendly!!
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02-28-2014 10:37 PM |
jcflyer |
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Originally Posted by rdlohr
Absolutely great thread!
Dumb question: Why is it so important to have Capt Rescue on a momentary contact switch?
Rick
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It's not really that important some just prefer it that way. Since I switched Tx I don't use the momentary switch...
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02-28-2014 07:15 PM |
rdlohr |
Absolutely great thread!
Dumb question: Why is it so important to have Capt Rescue on a momentary contact switch?
Rick
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10-19-2013 08:11 PM |
wearman |
Good info, I have a 12x that I am still learning, any one out here using one with hc3sx? I would love to speak one on one about channel assignment
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09-27-2013 08:17 PM |
wagspe208 |
About the third post Ph7 posted how to use the trainer switch without soldering/ swapping switches. He said he didn't have any Hc3SX experience..... has anyone done this? Works?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=nz
Wags
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09-14-2013 08:30 PM |
PassinThru |
Fuggeddabowdit, I ended up using Scott s's Aux2 switch solution. Works for me.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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09-05-2013 03:57 PM |
PassinThru |
Gear/Trainer Switch Wiring & Program Mixes Not doing the job
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Originally Posted by taosgraveyard
Switch the wiring around, inside the transmitter and you can then assign the mix to the trainer switch to control rescue
See
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...highlight=9503
Of course it means you aren't likely to use this radio for buddy boxing, but so what?
Takes less time than you think,
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I've attached a sketch schematic and some photos to show how I soldered the connections between the Gear and Trainer switches (thank you Taos & Magnazan) and programmed GEAR>AUX2 and AUX2>AUX2 mixes. I apologize for the quality of the photographs. It will be obvious to some of you that I don't know what I'm doing.
The 9503 Monitor screen shows GEAR toggling between large 0 and +100 values when I have the Gear switch flipped up; nothing when the Gear switch is flipped up; and nothing either way on the BD Diagnose Tab window.
The Aux2 switch shows no action on the 9503 Monitor screen, nor on the BD Diagnose Tab window.
Please feel free to comment...
p.s. I've got the tail and head gyro gains performing well on my X5. It flies beautifully in Rigid mode. Now to have Rigid and Self-levelling on the Aux2 switch and Bail-out on the Trainer switch! Go ahead - make my month!
Thomas
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08-25-2013 11:08 PM |
PassinThru |
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Originally Posted by scott s
Well what switches do you want to use. Do you pinch and use a tray. Switch selection is very limited on the 9303/9505 so you may have to do some serious mods especialy if you are a thumber and hold the tx with your hands.
I use a 9303 in a tray and I use aux2/ Up is self level, middle is rigid and down is captain rescue, I have a piece of silicon tubing between the gimble housing and aux2 in middle position so when I pull the switch down for captain rescue it springs right back to middle rigid mode, just like a momentary switch. White gorilla glue sticks to silicon and you only need a few drops My middle finger is alway's on that switch when I fly. Here is a close up pic of aux 2 with the silicone tube mod to make it momentary between middle and down position, Works like a charm Moved my flightmode switch to left top of tx and gear is the tailgyro gain with a multipoint mix so I can have different gains for different flightmodes. Switches from left to right on face of tx are flightmode blue, gear red with up position rate mode and down heading hold with gains selected by flightmode, Aux2= SL, rigid and Captain recue red and lastly throttle hold,blue
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Well, I don't know how you get Rigid and SL (which I understand is available using the Horizon tab) at the same time when the BD3SX software does not appear to allow that. Did Helicommand?
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08-22-2013 08:08 AM |
jcflyer |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnazan
And bind your radio to what?
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Bind to the HC and the Sats been doing that way for a long time!!!
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08-17-2013 09:16 PM |
PassinThru |
Servos now active and at neutral in Trim Tab.
Still no action in the self-levelling adjustments.
To be continued.
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08-17-2013 01:05 PM |
PassinThru |
Quote:
Originally Posted by scott s
Now if you decide to use aux 2 for your horizon mode switch you will not be able to use the gyro screen with the 9303/9503 for your tail gain (it works on aux2 channel 7). So inhibit the gyro screen and of course use the gear channel for tail gain (channel 5). You can still have different tail gains for each flightmode headspeed by following the pdf below which I prefer way better than assigning the gear as govornor and doing tail gain that way. Plus you gain a rate mode option to center your tail slider after carrying to flight line or switching to rate mode for tail rod adjustment or certain maneuvers that rate mode excells on. Forget the title as this works great with hc3sx and all fbl units with sats or fullsize rx. Also do not inhibit aux 2 as the screen shot shows in the pdf as you need it for horizon !!!
PS a value of 42 as shown in the pdf will give a value of 42 in the software bar for tail gain channel as long as your endpoints are tweaked to give 100% on the bar as you do with the others. 50 will be 50. negative 50 will be ratemode negative 50 etc
Attached Files 9303_mixing.pdf (208.1 KB, 311 views)
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Thanks much Scott. Using my JR9503, I was able to set up the tail gyro so that the bar value with GEAR UP is 0% and +42 with GEAR DOWN. Are those the proper settings?
Following your instructions for AUX 2, however, failed to result in any response in the bar values. I have the head gyro green lead from the cable loom connected to the AUX2 connection on my JR921 receiver. I'm stuck here in the set up process. Any ideas?
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08-15-2013 06:06 PM |
PassinThru |
Servos still sleeping in Trim Tab
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Originally Posted by Wynn1427
Been working my way through a lot of information on this system and setup options.
Currently I have a 9303 and setup to run a JR921 rx so its the cable loom condition. My original hope/understanding was that I could mix the tail gain and head gain with the FMod mix as listed above and then be able to setup the rescue and bailout on the AUX2 switch.
- Is it correct to assume that this would only be possible if I run separate sats and able to assign channels in the 1. RC tab?
- When I have cable loom there is no way to assign channel assignments?
- Trying to look at the wiring and figure out how to figure out the wiring into the jr 921 to create what would be like a banked setup with the flight mode and you can run different headspeeds and adjust the tail/head gain off of that and not be constrained to just a single value that appears to happen with a separate rx setup when I go from a Rigid to Horizon setup?
Thanks
Wynn
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Wynn,
I have a 9503 and a JR921 RX. I can't get my servos to go to the neutral position in the BD Trim tab so that I can adjust the servo horns and ball links. To which receiver connections did you connect the BD cable loom leads?
BD is on vacation and won't likely respond until the middle of next month.
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08-15-2013 06:01 PM |
PassinThru |
Just tryna do what I'm told
Quote:
Originally Posted by scott s
Now if you decide to use aux 2 for your horizon mode switch you will not be able to use the gyro screen with the 9303/9503 for your tail gain (it works on aux2 channel 7). So inhibit the gyro screen and of course use the gear channel for tail gain (channel 5). You can still have different tail gains for each flightmode headspeed by following the pdf below which I prefer way better than assigning the gear as govornor and doing tail gain that way. Plus you gain a rate mode option to center your tail slider after carrying to flight line or switching to rate mode for tail rod adjustment or certain maneuvers that rate mode excells on. Forget the title as this works great with hc3sx and all fbl units with sats or fullsize rx. Also do not inhibit aux 2 as the screen shot shows in the pdf as you need it for horizon !!!
PS a value of 42 as shown in the pdf will give a value of 42 in the software bar for tail gain channel as long as your endpoints are tweaked to give 100% on the bar as you do with the others. 50 will be 50. negative 50 will be ratemode negative 50 etc
Attached Files 9303_mixing.pdf (208.1 KB, 311 views)
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Scott,
How do you "inhibit the gyro screen".
My 9503 does not permit me to set AUX2 to INH. It stays on GYRO.
Your pdf is clear enough (thank you) but I don't know what you mean by setting the throttle to 100% in system mode. Maybe that's why the IN value in my Prog Mix 1 stays at 17? The gear switch toggles the OUT value between OFF (switch up) and 42 (switch down).
This is all spook speak to me. I don't know what's happening.
But I am going to trust you on this.
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08-14-2013 11:12 PM |
PassinThru |
Why not Flight Modes for Self Level, Rigid and Captain Rescue?
Thank you Scott & Magnazan. Great stuff considering how little information there is out there for the JR9503/9303.
I still find it difficult to make the transition between the BD 3SX software and the radio settings, particularly when it comes those key modes.
I'm a pincher who would like to assign the SL, Rigid & CR to the 3-position Flight Mode switch (an adaptation of Scott S's approach). I only use 2 flight modes anyway and assume I can assign those to either Elev D/R or Aile D/R, depending on which side is more convenient. Right? I have become used to using the Rudder D/R switch on the upper right for Throttle Hold.
I see that AUX4 is assigned (by my BD3SX?) to the FMOD SW on my 9503 DeviceSEL screen. Would this not simplify setting up AUX4 for SL, Rigid & CR?
By the way, my servos do not go to neutral in the Trim tab of the set up wizard so that's where I'm stuck at the moment.
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