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Old 11-20-2011, 09:23 PM   #1
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Alright Horizon, you guys are great, but stop selling junk..it's really getting on my nerves. Three months ago, I bought a set of Losi Metric hex drivers, $50 for four drivers. The handles are nice, appear to be anodized(they are not, just painted) and the tips looked like they were pretty decent quality..WRONG!

In the first two months I broke 2x 1.5mm tips and one 2mm tip. Yes there is a point at which these things will break but were talking about maybe a ft lb of torque or two..they should hold up to that..they don't. They are cheap Chinese pot metal that is not hardened or improperly hardened making them very brittle. i would prefer a set of regular allen keys that are at least tempered and oil quenched over these..

A few weeks ago I called Horizon and they offered to either send replacement tips(after I had bought all the others @7 bucks a pop, or offered me a set of "Machined tool steel" Dynamite brand drivers..I thought what the heck why not! A week later, the drivers arrived. They looked nice and they indeed looked like much better quality material in the tips. I was wrong. I have since already broken the 1.5mm and 2mm tips on these You can see in the pic how cheap and brittle the metal is.

I'll be calling Horizon again in the morning and getting a refund, I don't want this JUNK anymore!

Stay away from both sets of these drivers..

/Rant and warning!
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:24 PM   #2
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Mip Thorp.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:28 PM   #3
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MIP Thorp

So good they are in my sig.

They also fit the screws tight enough to hold up 3 servos and a 450 Pro bearing block.


The pink handled Dynamites are also very good.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:29 PM   #4
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So good I bought the entire set.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:11 AM   #5
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I have a set of the pink handled dynamites I have had for about 7 or 8 years and never had a problem with them built and torn down many many rcs with em.

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Old 11-21-2011, 01:08 AM   #6
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:13 AM   #7
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The dynamite work for me, I have ground the tip down a bit to get fresh surface but itll last another year b4 I put in the extra bit I bought with the 1.5. Its also good to have a few different brands, fasteners vary so sometimes a different hex fits better. I had a hobbyking with 4 bits in the handle, its good but I broke the 1.5 by chucking it in a drill to redo a frame. It snapped but thats because it was hardened, it was a good tool. The reviews on hk said the tool changed quality so I havent rebought.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:40 AM   #8
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I have a set of the pink handled dynamites
Do they make them for men?
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:45 AM   #10
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+1 for MIP thorps. After my cheaper 1.5mm hex driver broke I got an MIP, it's lasted through much use and abuse. The tip still has totally rigid corners with no sign of rounding.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:33 PM   #11
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Hudy drivers.

Spring steel tips ground to size, not cast metal like most tools.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:37 PM   #12
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http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...metric-DYN3080

These are the ones IN question. are the MIP's cryo treated?
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Hudy drivers.

Spring steel tips ground to size, not cast metal like most tools.
MIP is ground too.

Wihas are also OK, but still not that great.
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MIP is ground too.

Wihas are also OK, but still not that great.
I find it kind of funny that MIP's warranty is "we will replace each driver for $15 each"..Each driver already costs $15...
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:49 PM   #15
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+100 for the pink Dynamite hex drivers...my set of 3 ...1.5/2/2.5 are great...no signs of wear yet...threads twist off on the screws before the hex will round off...
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I find it kind of funny that MIP's warranty is "we will replace each driver for $15 each"..Each driver already costs $15...
Yeah, but I've only read of one breaking once. They don't need a warranty they are so good.
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:41 PM   #17
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China buys our a scrap steel pennies on the dollar and this is what they send back. High priced tools that don't last.


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Old 11-20-2011, 10:13 PM   #18
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Three months ago, I bought a set of Losi Metric hex drivers, $50 for four drivers...In the first two months I broke 2x 1.5mm tips and one 2mm tip.
Been using Losi drivers with no issues at the recommendation of Nankin Hobby. So far so good.

These are what I have:



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They are cheap Chinese pot metal that is not hardened or improperly hardened making them very brittle. i would prefer a set of regular allen keys that are at least tempered and oil quenched over these.
The harder the metal, the more brittle.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:29 AM   #19
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Been using Losi drivers with no issues at the recommendation of Nankin Hobby. So far so good.

These are what I have:





The harder the metal, the more brittle.
Yep.... I have these too, have been providing quality service for years with no issues.

The tips are spring steel that is TiN coated, so, if you are breaking them there may be something else up.

These are just as good as MIP or HUDY....
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Yep.... I have these too, have been providing quality service for years with no issues.

The tips are spring steel that is TiN coated, so, if you are breaking them there may be something else up.

These are just as good as MIP or HUDY....
LOL. These are not spring steel, no way..

Those were the first set I had (still have them) and the larger drivers are OK but the 2mm and 1.5mm are weak and round off easily even on the Align screws..
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