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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered already but a usage of the forum search function didn't seem to turn up anything. Even Professor Google seemed stumped.
Anyone know what 'glow paper' is? You can see an example of its use at http://glowire.com/RCHELICOPTERS.htm, the last image on the bottom on the right side. I've never heard of it but would definitely like to get my hands on some. Any info available would be greatly appreciated. |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: US, east coast
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Thats an Electroluminescent panel or el panel. Its usually sold in sheets, ribbon (tape) or small squares and simple shapes. Align has a branded product that is their logo and it goes on the canopy. This stuff is not as bright as an LED strip on 12v btw.
Its a similar material as el wire but in a sheet. It requires an inverter to light up and acts as a capacitor but also glows blue/green. Different colors are achieved by adding colored filters over the thin el panel. It uses around 90 to 180v AC @ 400-4000Hz depending on the size of the panel and the inverter or driver used. Be careful, any exposed wires after the driver can deliver a nasty shock, ask me how I know. The higher the voltage the brighter the el panel. Also a smaller el panel connected to an inverter will be brighter than a larger one. The best inverter I found for Rc applications is here: http://store.glowire.com/products/F2-9-volt-driver-for-3%27-%252d-15%27-of-Glowire.html You can also use this one for a 4.2v single lipo input: http://store.glowire.com/products/F4S-3-volt-driver-for-1.5%27-%252d-6%27-of-Glowire.html These guys sell cheap el ribbon by the foot and they are the only place I know that will include press to fit connectors so you can make custom size ribbons/panels: http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/213/Electroluminescent-Strips/1.html Here are a bunch more links to various vendors and info. I've ordered from Jab-tech so I can vouch for them. Sparkfun and adafruit are also well known vendor sites. http://www.sparkfun.com/categories/226 http://www.ladyada.net/learn/el-wire/ http://www.adafruit.com/category/50_79 http://www.jab-tech.com/EL-Wire-and-EL-Tape-c-62.html http://www.thatscoolwire.com/store/category.asp?CategoryID=188 Most of the ebay sellers charge way too much for this stuff. If you go to walmart or a big box hardware store, they often have plug in nightlights with a small panel of this stuff but its not very bright on 120v @60hz.
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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Holy everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-EL Batman!!!
You gave more than I could have ever hoped to have received! Thank you very much! ![]() |
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, Canada
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Give it a couple of years and it will be surpassed by OLED's. They've alrady made a few fexible OLED screens. So it's a matter of time before they're cheap enough for mass production
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: US, east coast
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Hopefully OLED will be brighter too. I'm considering getting an el driver SMD chip and some small custom circuit boards to make my own EL panel driver.
On my current (haha) el project I'm getting 115v AC from the 3v glowire driver. Not sure of how many Hz its supplying, but I want more juice. I would really like to get closer to the voltage saturation point of my el panels. The brighter the better. Who cares if the el panels begin to fade after 400 hours. Do you know how many 7 minute flights that is? 3,428 !!
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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It's my understanding that the voltage is not as important as the frequency. The higher the frequency, the brighter the wire or panel but also, the shorter the effective lifetime.
Most drivers I have seen are all 120 volts but with differing frequencies with 2kHz and 4kHz being the most common I've seen, although there are others as well. |
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, Canada
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this will explain the basics of OLED display
http://www.digikey.ca/ca/en/techzone/lighting/resources/articles/oled-displays-offer-brighter-images.html imagine an 80" tv being only a couple of millimetres thick! |
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