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yf222000 · 05-22-2012, 09:29 AM

Hello all.
Please let me introduce myself. I am Neil, and looking into getting with turbine heli, so
I hope I could gather as much info as I can before taking the jump. I have been involved with heli and other aspects of RC modeling for years, so I thought it is time to bite the bullet and get into turbine heli, as this is the only few things in the RC field that I have not get my hands on yet.

So, thanks in advance for all the future help that you gents may give.

Best regards,
Neil.

cbdane · 05-23-2012, 08:02 PM

Welcome Neil. Drop by sometime if you'd like to get an up-close intro to the Bergen 44 Magnum. I fly it several times a month at Livermore Flying Electrons.

Added in edit: I'm in Singapore now but should be back in CA in June.

hawkman71 · 06-06-2012, 02:17 PM

Hi, I can help with some advice if you want. I no longer have a turbine heli...sold both my large helis (one was a gasser) after deciding I had had enough..but I still have an interest in the hobby. Still got a Trex 450

Biggest help is to get an airframe and engine unit thats well known...nothing wrong with an adventure if you have some prior experience...but you got to know whats available for spare parts etc...nothing worse than a heli or engine that you cant get parts for.

Turbines are very easy to look after, common practices being adhered to...clean filtered fuel...looking after your battery packs and religously checking the airframe/engine over after every flight.
I have been tempted to get back into large helis, and must say the Turbine would be the attraction. I would probably go with the Trex 700/Wren 44 route.

I used to own a Century Predator (two if you include the gasser...this had the zenoah 231) the Turbine was a Wren MW54 in kit form...a joy to build and operate. You cant get this engine from Wren now, though I am sure parts are still available. The Predator was a great heli to fly...though the Condor length blades and boom etc are the ideal. The TRex 700 seems happy with its standard size blades with the Wren 44.

Wait for further advice, the guy that posted before me would be the best bet, to show you first hand the Turbine experience. Good luck, you will have a ball

yf222000 · 06-12-2012, 06:39 PM

Definitely will need all the help I can get. Placed an order for the Mag 44 with Bergen. It seems like this kit is the most economically priced for turbine. All I can do now is sit on my hands and wait until it arrives.

cbdane · 06-13-2012, 09:28 PM

Hey yf22, I'm in the process of coordinating a get together with another HF member at the field this Saturday morning with the turbine. You're certainly welcome if you want to lay eyes on it in person!

yf222000 · 06-13-2012, 09:30 PM

Thanks for the invite. Unfortunately, I am gonna be in Yosemite this week for photography. How often does your team fly your turbines out there?

yf222000 · 06-13-2012, 09:34 PM

I also just bought the HeliCommand HC3-SX unit from one of the member here. Now, I have another item to wait for.

Dunno about you guys, but waiting sux..

Do you think this gyro system is good? I have read quite a bit, and it seems like it is a good system.

hawkman71 · 06-16-2012, 04:08 PM

The Helicommand unit? hmmm....I could be way out of whack here, but I remember reading up on some units suffering interference from Turbine systems...something to do with harmonics?

Like I said, I could be way off the mark...but sure I read of such issues some years ago. Do check up on this.

Sounds good though, Bergen did scrape through my mind a couple of times before now....look to be nice helis. The Wrens? pointless saying about these! they really are gems.

yf222000 · 06-17-2012, 10:48 PM

Thank you for the tip. Yes I did read up quite a bit about this unit and two stages turbines. I called Esprite Models and talked with an expert there in regards about it. Apparently, Captron makes a shroud that goes over the device to eliminate the high freq noises. Also, I looked all over and it seems like most issues and crashes that related to gyro systems and two stage turbines may have something to do with front facing engines and carbon fibre frames. I really am not sure, and probably wont ever know if that is true. I'm sure many would disagree, but that's from reading and asking around. I have not seen many of the Bergen Magnum 44 suffered this issues on a few forums. Again, it's just my readings so far. It doesn't mean that it won't happens with mine when it actually gets here and built.

CrazyHeliDude · 06-22-2012, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yf222000

Hello all.
Please let me introduce myself. I am Neil, and looking into getting with turbine heli, so
I hope I could gather as much info as I can before taking the jump. I have been involved with heli and other aspects of RC modeling for years, so I thought it is time to bite the bullet and get into turbine heli, as this is the only few things in the RC field that I have not get my hands on yet.

So, thanks in advance for all the future help that you gents may give.

Best regards,
Neil.

Hey Neil, looks like you're at the same place I'm at. Been messing around with everything helicopter for so long, thinking it'll soon be time to try out some RC turbine stuff. Nothing like the high pitched whine of a gas turbine engine and the smell of burning Jet-A

Good luck with your endeavor!

Cletus · 06-22-2012, 08:32 PM

Turbine helis are so cool! ........I just love my Intrepid MW-54

yf222000 · 06-27-2012, 11:31 PM

Yes sir. LOL Its about the only whine I could, and will tolerate.

When it does, everything else seems to vaporize in the exhaust smell of kerosene.

Thank you for the wishes. I am sitting on an ants hill waiting for it to arrive.

CrazyHeliDude · 06-28-2012, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus

Turbine helis are so cool! ........I just love my Intrepid MW-54

Hey Cletus, might you have some pics you can show us?

Cletus · 06-28-2012, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHeliDude

Hey Cletus, might you have some pics you can show us?

Sure:

Check-out the heat waves from the exhaust:

You can see some more of my stuff on Photobucket:
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/cberkeley/Turbine/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ20

CrazyHeliDude · 06-28-2012, 12:09 PM

VERY nice, and thank you for sharing!

Skiddz · 06-28-2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus

Turbine helis are so cool! ........I just love my Intrepid MW-54

Same here! Easily my most flown helicopter over the past 3 years I've had it.

lperagallo · 07-09-2012, 03:16 PM

Kevin,

One flight a year really doesn't mean much in the past three years

lou

Skiddz · 07-09-2012, 03:47 PM

It was pretty much every weekend for the 1st two of those 3 years so PLBBTTTT!!!!

mcfast · 07-12-2012, 08:53 AM

These are the two I had.

mcfast · 07-16-2012, 09:09 PM

YouTube

05-22-2012, 09:29 AM	#1
yf222000 Registered Users Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	Newbie Hello all. Please let me introduce myself. I am Neil, and looking into getting with turbine heli, so I hope I could gather as much info as I can before taking the jump. I have been involved with heli and other aspects of RC modeling for years, so I thought it is time to bite the bullet and get into turbine heli, as this is the only few things in the RC field that I have not get my hands on yet. So, thanks in advance for all the future help that you gents may give. Best regards, Neil.

05-23-2012, 08:02 PM	#2
cbdane Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, U.S.	Welcome Neil. Drop by sometime if you'd like to get an up-close intro to the Bergen 44 Magnum. I fly it several times a month at Livermore Flying Electrons. Added in edit: I'm in Singapore now but should be back in CA in June. __________________ Have laser, will travel.

06-12-2012, 06:39 PM	#4
yf222000 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	Thanks. Definitely will need all the help I can get. Placed an order for the Mag 44 with Bergen. It seems like this kit is the most economically priced for turbine. All I can do now is sit on my hands and wait until it arrives.

06-13-2012, 09:28 PM	#5
cbdane Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area, California, U.S.	44 Magnum Saturday in Livermore Hey yf22, I'm in the process of coordinating a get together with another HF member at the field this Saturday morning with the turbine. You're certainly welcome if you want to lay eyes on it in person! __________________ Have laser, will travel.

06-13-2012, 09:30 PM	#6
yf222000 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	Thanks. Thanks for the invite. Unfortunately, I am gonna be in Yosemite this week for photography. How often does your team fly your turbines out there?

06-06-2012, 02:17 PM	#3
hawkman71 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Falkland Islands	Hi, I can help with some advice if you want. I no longer have a turbine heli...sold both my large helis (one was a gasser) after deciding I had had enough..but I still have an interest in the hobby. Still got a Trex 450 Biggest help is to get an airframe and engine unit thats well known...nothing wrong with an adventure if you have some prior experience...but you got to know whats available for spare parts etc...nothing worse than a heli or engine that you cant get parts for. Turbines are very easy to look after, common practices being adhered to...clean filtered fuel...looking after your battery packs and religously checking the airframe/engine over after every flight. I have been tempted to get back into large helis, and must say the Turbine would be the attraction. I would probably go with the Trex 700/Wren 44 route. I used to own a Century Predator (two if you include the gasser...this had the zenoah 231) the Turbine was a Wren MW54 in kit form...a joy to build and operate. You cant get this engine from Wren now, though I am sure parts are still available. The Predator was a great heli to fly...though the Condor length blades and boom etc are the ideal. The TRex 700 seems happy with its standard size blades with the Wren 44. Wait for further advice, the guy that posted before me would be the best bet, to show you first hand the Turbine experience. Good luck, you will have a ball

06-13-2012, 09:34 PM	#7
yf222000 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	HeliCommand I also just bought the HeliCommand HC3-SX unit from one of the member here. Now, I have another item to wait for. Dunno about you guys, but waiting sux.. Do you think this gyro system is good? I have read quite a bit, and it seems like it is a good system.

06-16-2012, 04:08 PM	#8
hawkman71 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Falkland Islands	The Helicommand unit? hmmm....I could be way out of whack here, but I remember reading up on some units suffering interference from Turbine systems...something to do with harmonics? Like I said, I could be way off the mark...but sure I read of such issues some years ago. Do check up on this. Sounds good though, Bergen did scrape through my mind a couple of times before now....look to be nice helis. The Wrens? pointless saying about these! they really are gems.

06-17-2012, 10:48 PM	#9
yf222000 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	HC3-SX and noise Thank you for the tip. Yes I did read up quite a bit about this unit and two stages turbines. I called Esprite Models and talked with an expert there in regards about it. Apparently, Captron makes a shroud that goes over the device to eliminate the high freq noises. Also, I looked all over and it seems like most issues and crashes that related to gyro systems and two stage turbines may have something to do with front facing engines and carbon fibre frames. I really am not sure, and probably wont ever know if that is true. I'm sure many would disagree, but that's from reading and asking around. I have not seen many of the Bergen Magnum 44 suffered this issues on a few forums. Again, it's just my readings so far. It doesn't mean that it won't happens with mine when it actually gets here and built.

06-22-2012, 08:32 PM	#11
Cletus Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Trinidad & Tobago	Turbine helis are so cool! ........I just love my Intrepid MW-54 __________________ A helicopter in flight is a working demonstration of all the basic physical laws of the universe in action. Member: AMA 928457 - IRCHA 3449

06-27-2012, 11:31 PM	#12
yf222000 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012 Location: California	Its the only whine. Yes sir. LOL Its about the only whine I could, and will tolerate. When it does, everything else seems to vaporize in the exhaust smell of kerosene. Thank you for the wishes. I am sitting on an ants hill waiting for it to arrive.

06-28-2012, 12:09 PM	#15
CrazyHeliDude Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida	VERY nice, and thank you for sharing! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-09-2012, 03:16 PM	#17
lperagallo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Westfield, IN	Kevin, One flight a year really doesn't mean much in the past three years lou __________________ Vector 550 Quad/Octo Multirotors DJI WooKong Multirotor Controllers Twin Bergen 44 Magnum Turbines - KERO Start FBL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. www.circlecityhelis.com

07-09-2012, 03:47 PM	#18
Skiddz HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA (USA)	It was pretty much every weekend for the 1st two of those 3 years so PLBBTTTT!!!! __________________ -Kevin No helicopters were harmed in the creation of this post. AMA CD # 7309, Turbine Waiver# RW 890 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-12-2012, 08:53 AM	#19
mcfast Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Quebec Quebec Canada	These are the two I had. Attached Thumbnails

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