Lynx goblin upgrade

[heliboy-3d]

Lynx send me a totally new designed Goblin Gyro pad.

In my opinion it's much better than the carbon one. Take a look at the picture and see it yourself!

I have on the top my vbar and under the futaba S-bus receiver, works great.

[timmytron]

Wow I had no idea the stock CF plate could flex that much. The new Lynx plate looks nice and beefy, and I see it just came out 2 days ago so it should be entering the local markets soon.

[felborn]

Originally Posted by timmytron

Wow I had no idea the stock CF plate could flex that much. The new Lynx plate looks nice and beefy, and I see it just came out 2 days ago so it should be entering the local markets soon.

It flexes that much because it's not mounted on the helicopter. Once it's installed correctly, I see no real need for this.

[heliboy-3d]

Originally Posted by felborn

It flexes that much because it's not mounted on the helicopter. Once it's installed correctly, I see no real need for this.

Thats a little bit true... But it gives realy more strength and got a higher blingbling factor.
I have installed it and would never place the carbon one back

[x3mperformance]

The CF part can hold up the job, but..
The stiffer Lynx gyro base mount, will for sure, also, add stiffness to the Goblin.
Thats a very simple fact.
And i just got my Goblin today...
This is a nessasary upgrade for mine, for sure.

Rene'

[CeeveeSiN]

this is unnecessary and heavy. sorry I love lynx upgrades but this one is pointless.

[neohp]

exactly. adding weight for no benefit in this case. lynx can do better.

[djamgils]

Originally Posted by x3mperformance

The stiffer Lynx gyro base mount, will for sure, also, add stiffness to the Goblin.
Thats a very simple fact.
And i just got my Goblin today...
This is a nessasary upgrade for mine, for sure.

the gyro tray is bolted to a pretty thick aluminium plate that already has plenty of stiffness by itself. So it is a completely useless "upgrade"

[Lynx Heli]

This gyro tray is an extremely important component on the Goblin helicopter - the single most important control component (the FBL unit) mounts on this tray.

While this tray may be a couple of grams heavier than the stock carbon tray, it certainly does support the FBL unit better. Not only that, but our tray is extremely aesthetically pleasing.

When we design upgrades, we want them to be a functional improvement over the standard part, as well as look good. We are very conscious of weight during the design phase of all our parts - we are always aiming for a lighter, stronger, better component. In this case, we were happy to sacrifice a few grams to develop what we consider to be an awesome gyro tray..... just ask anyone that has used one! We have received lots of great feedback on this product - so perhaps try one.

[x3mperformance]

Originally Posted by djamgils

the gyro tray is bolted to a pretty thick aluminium plate that already has plenty of stiffness by itself. So it is a completely useless "upgrade"

Hmm.
Useless... No, not in my world.
It is sitting in one of the most critic places of any helicopter, (The most important are the main bearings...) where the tail are connected to the airframe, and this point can't be strengthent enough.
And just like Lynx Heli mentions, the flybar less controller needs this kind of solid base to be 100% optimal.
But Yes, i agree that the original plate can do the job, but the forces of heavy 3D, puts stress in places you would not belive!
Think Bert Kammerer, Kyle Stacy and Pascal Richter would agree on that.

Rene'

[felborn]

The original plate does the job perfectly. The pictures showing flex with the plate is before it's assembled. Screwed down, try to show any flexing at all. Nice to look at yes, useless yes

[CeeveeSiN]

Originally Posted by Lynx Heli

This gyro tray is an extremely important component on the Goblin helicopter - the single most important control component (the FBL unit) mounts on this tray.

While this tray may be a couple of grams heavier than the stock carbon tray, it certainly does support the FBL unit better. Not only that, but our tray is extremely aesthetically pleasing.

When we design upgrades, we want them to be a functional improvement over the standard part, as well as look good. We are very conscious of weight during the design phase of all our parts - we are always aiming for a lighter, stronger, better component. In this case, we were happy to sacrifice a few grams to develop what we consider to be an awesome gyro tray..... just ask anyone that has used one! We have received lots of great feedback on this product - so perhaps try one.

But why? the stock plate is extremely ridged and light and is very very strong and very well designed and simple at the same time.

There are no issues with the mount it is a very low vibe location and they are not breaking in crashes.

Your mount actually takes away the abiltiy to mount a switch or RX underneith the rear part of the tray which was ideal before especially with the limited Avionics room on the Goblin as it is.

With the Goblins wrap around canopy you cant see it anyway.

Again I think you guys are wonderful but come on.. this one really doesn't do anything and really didn't need an "upgrade" especially one that weighs more on an already tail heavy bird.

[CeeveeSiN]

Originally Posted by x3mperformance

Hmm.
Useless... No, not in my world.
It is sitting in one of the most critic places of any helicopter, (The most important are the main bearings...) where the tail are connected to the airframe, and this point can't be strengthent enough.
And just like Lynx Heli mentions, the flybar less controller needs this kind of solid base to be 100% optimal.
But Yes, i agree that the original plate can do the job, but the forces of heavy 3D, puts stress in places you would not belive!
Think Bert Kammerer, Kyle Stacy and Pascal Richter would agree on that.

Rene'

if Bert believed it was a weak point which I assure you it is not it would have been redesigned.

This design has been beaten into the ground by the worlds best.. and not once has anyone found a weakness there. in fact I'd say between the main slab and the main frame and the tripod holding this up it is the most ridged place on the entire heli.

[x3mperformance]

Originally Posted by CeeveeSiN

if Bert believed it was a weak point which I assure you it is not it would have been redesigned.

This design has been beaten into the ground by the worlds best.. and not once has anyone found a weakness there. in fact I'd say between the main slab and the main frame and the tripod holding this up it is the most ridged place on the entire heli.

Never stated that any of the three have said or thought that the gyro plate was a week spot.

But Yes, i agree that the original plate can do the job, but the forces of heavy 3D, puts stress in places you would not belive!
Think Bert Kammerer, Kyle Stacy and Pascal Richter would agree on that.

Stated that Heavy 3D flight puts stress on places you would not belive.
Read and understand, before you start throwing with mud!

But the Alu upgrade, is a good heatsink, are ridgid and strong, light and makes the frame/tail attatchment stronger (Or not) plus it looks the business.
Nothing more.

But let me nail one thing.
I have a Goblin 700.
And it might be a darn good heli, but not error free.
There is a version 1, upgraded to version 2, revised to version 3 (Which i have) and there will be a 4 and...

Rene'

[Seasick78]

My gyro mounts straight onto the main plate with no CF tray or any other kind of tray. Works nicely! Had a bit of a tail drift on my first few flights which was resolved by using slightly thicker mounting tape. Can't get any more "stiff" than the transmission assembly itself. Very easy access to the nylon tail bolts without removal of any trays or anything else.




-- Josh

[felborn]

Originally Posted by x3mperformance

But the Alu upgrade, is a good heatsink, are ridgid and strong, light and makes the frame/tail attatchment stronger (Or not) plus it looks the business.
Nothing more.

But let me nail one thing.
I have a Goblin 700.
And it might be a darn good heli, but not error free.
There is a version 1, upgraded to version 2, revised to version 3 (Which i have) and there will be a 4 and...

This upgrade makes the frame tail attachment stronger? Where on earth did you come up with that, it's not even needed! It's only there if you want to mount a gyro or other equipment there. If you want to strap it to the sides, you can remove the whole bloody thing. It's does not make anything on the heli stronger or better, it simply works as a mounting surface. Also, if you got issues with heat from your FBL unit, something is very very wrong!

If the Goblin has issues, I welcome Lynx or anyone to come with a worthwhile upgrade, but this item does nothing but add weight and cost money...

[Seasick78]

BTW - my post was not intended to be slandering Lynx. I think y'all make great products. If anyone doesn't like or want a given item, they simply need not buy it. The beauty of the free market.

In either case, thanks for innovating and proposing different products for us to choose from.


-- Josh

[CeeveeSiN]

Originally Posted by Seasick78

BTW - my post was not intended to be slandering Lynx. I think y'all make great products. If anyone doesn't like or want a given item, they simply need not buy it. The beauty of the free market.

In either case, thanks for innovating and proposing different products for us to choose from.


-- Josh

Agreed same here I am a HUGE Lynx supporter and fly MANY of their products on my birds.

I may come off gruff sometimes but it is not meant that way.. Just trying to give feedback and nothing more.