Belt wear

traeside · 11-28-2008, 07:32 PM

I Just finished my 3rd battery and i see belt wear on the outside of my belt. it looks like it is to close to the tail housing.this is the all meatal addtion and i have checked the tention twice. is it still too loose?

nuttcaze · 11-29-2008, 11:51 PM

both of mine have plastic tails, but they both rub too. after a crap load of flights I have yet to have any probs though

traeside · 11-30-2008, 09:39 AM

okay so maybe it just a bad design. mine looks to be riding all the way on the left side of the tail gear and then it ruds on the top and left edge of the tail case

nuttcaze · 11-30-2008, 12:01 PM

yep, thats what mine does, runs in the same spot

LockMD · 12-01-2008, 08:45 AM

I just built a rex 500 with a torque tube, I wonder if there is a way to install a tail with a torque tube on this machine?

nuttcaze · 12-01-2008, 09:47 AM

ok, newbie question

, what is a torque tube?

glad to see you're still kicking around LockMD

LockMD · 12-01-2008, 09:52 AM

It's cool.......instead of a belt its more like a drive shaft......let me see if I can find a pic for ya.

found this online......if not clear enough, maybe I can take a pic of mine tonight.

nuttcaze · 12-01-2008, 01:39 PM

ok, thats what I thought it wasn't sure. I thought shaft driven tails were bad

LockMD · 12-01-2008, 01:57 PM

I don't know, first I've heard of them myself and all I can say so far, is I LOVE IT. very smooth and no tension to mess with let alone the wearing of the belt on the side. We'll see how time goes if I still say the same.

Design Engnr · 12-01-2008, 05:01 PM

Shaft Driven tails have the advantage of being more efficient. They cause less drag overall in the drive system, and thus allow more power to be used for flight. Or Autorotation if need be. Equipment will also run cooler due to the higher efficiency....Although that is debateable. The first version of Esky's King and Cool helis were shaft driven. I had a HB Cool that was a wonderful little heli. The shaft driven tail was very reliable in it as well.

Dave

LockMD · 12-01-2008, 05:15 PM

Good to hear, thanks for the input. I wonder if they are/were too expensive to crash/repair, maybe thats why they got away from them

I can feel less drag and have only hovered it for 2 mins, so I will report back when I get more flight time on her.

I'm wondering if there is a simple way to put the rex 600's torque tube tail on this heli ? I will check into that after I have more experience with them as well.

nuttcaze · 12-01-2008, 05:49 PM

keep us posted

I'm hoping to get my new Falcon 40 Thursday, gonna be interesting since its been a few months since I last flew a little FP

damyxz · 12-02-2008, 09:19 PM

Torque tube has its pros and cons. Yes it makes for a more efficient power train, but it's like gaining a fraction of a percentage in performance per $ spent. Another big time strike against TT is it strips easily, even a small TR scrape will do you in. I had a TT on my trex 600 and one thing I did not like about it is it makes an already tail heavy heli even more tail heavy. (another $110 lost in a crash) There is no possible way of adapting a TT drive on the E-smart, it needs a custom cut tail drive gear system and the stock Trex TT system will not fit in the E-smart frame unless somebody here redesigns a new frame.

11-28-2008, 07:32 PM	#1
traeside Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fremont California	Belt wear I Just finished my 3rd battery and i see belt wear on the outside of my belt. it looks like it is to close to the tail housing.this is the all meatal addtion and i have checked the tention twice. is it still too loose? __________________ TRaeside Blade CX2 - T-Rex 250 T-Rex 450 - T-Rex 500 CF HIROBO Shuttle ZX - E-Smart 600 All Metal - Gaui 200- Vision 50 - T-Rex 600ESP

11-30-2008, 09:39 AM	#3
traeside Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fremont California	okay so maybe it just a bad design. mine looks to be riding all the way on the left side of the tail gear and then it ruds on the top and left edge of the tail case __________________ TRaeside Blade CX2 - T-Rex 250 T-Rex 450 - T-Rex 500 CF HIROBO Shuttle ZX - E-Smart 600 All Metal - Gaui 200- Vision 50 - T-Rex 600ESP

12-02-2008, 09:19 PM	#13
damyxz Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA	Torque tube has its pros and cons. Yes it makes for a more efficient power train, but it's like gaining a fraction of a percentage in performance per $ spent. Another big time strike against TT is it strips easily, even a small TR scrape will do you in. I had a TT on my trex 600 and one thing I did not like about it is it makes an already tail heavy heli even more tail heavy. (another $110 lost in a crash) There is no possible way of adapting a TT drive on the E-smart, it needs a custom cut tail drive gear system and the stock Trex TT system will not fit in the E-smart frame unless somebody here redesigns a new frame. __________________ _____________________ Scott's Hobbies DVS inc.

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11-29-2008, 11:51 PM	#2
nuttcaze Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Johnson City, New York	both of mine have plastic tails, but they both rub too. after a crap load of flights I have yet to have any probs though

11-30-2008, 12:01 PM	#4
nuttcaze Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Johnson City, New York	yep, thats what mine does, runs in the same spot

12-01-2008, 08:45 AM	#5
LockMD Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Concord, CA	I just built a rex 500 with a torque tube, I wonder if there is a way to install a tail with a torque tube on this machine?

12-01-2008, 09:47 AM	#6
nuttcaze Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Johnson City, New York	ok, newbie question , what is a torque tube? glad to see you're still kicking around LockMD

12-01-2008, 09:52 AM	#7
LockMD Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Concord, CA	It's cool.......instead of a belt its more like a drive shaft......let me see if I can find a pic for ya. found this online......if not clear enough, maybe I can take a pic of mine tonight.

12-01-2008, 01:39 PM	#8
nuttcaze Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Johnson City, New York	ok, thats what I thought it wasn't sure. I thought shaft driven tails were bad

12-01-2008, 01:57 PM	#9
LockMD Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Concord, CA	I don't know, first I've heard of them myself and all I can say so far, is I LOVE IT. very smooth and no tension to mess with let alone the wearing of the belt on the side. We'll see how time goes if I still say the same.

12-01-2008, 05:01 PM	#10
Design Engnr Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tennessee	Shaft Driven tails have the advantage of being more efficient. They cause less drag overall in the drive system, and thus allow more power to be used for flight. Or Autorotation if need be. Equipment will also run cooler due to the higher efficiency....Although that is debateable. The first version of Esky's King and Cool helis were shaft driven. I had a HB Cool that was a wonderful little heli. The shaft driven tail was very reliable in it as well. Dave

12-01-2008, 05:15 PM	#11
LockMD Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Concord, CA	Good to hear, thanks for the input. I wonder if they are/were too expensive to crash/repair, maybe thats why they got away from them I can feel less drag and have only hovered it for 2 mins, so I will report back when I get more flight time on her. I'm wondering if there is a simple way to put the rex 600's torque tube tail on this heli ? I will check into that after I have more experience with them as well.

12-01-2008, 05:49 PM	#12
nuttcaze Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Johnson City, New York	keep us posted I'm hoping to get my new Falcon 40 Thursday, gonna be interesting since its been a few months since I last flew a little FP