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rcnut · 11-18-2014, 07:10 AM

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Not to pile on, but has anyone had success using this with the AR7200bx?

No, it won't. The voltage is right, but its the pulse width, its not compatable with the Stator Gator. I used the GV-1 with great results.

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Any solid answer on if it works with the Spartan Vortex? Will be for a upcoming build, just need to know if I'm going to go Spartan or budget the funds for a Vbar.

No, it won't. I tried the Spartan Vortex VX1n and the stator Gator...it didn't work. So I used a regular magnet pickup and placed it on the exhaust side of the motor towards the front (the thinnest section of the motor housing), using the flywheel magnet.

This works great, no extra electronic componet to mess with! The VX1n has a built-in governor and it works great!

Angelos · 11-21-2014, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rcnut

No, it won't. The voltage is right, but its the pulse width, its not compatable with the Stator Gator. I used the GV-1 with great results.

No, it won't. I tried the Spartan Vortex VX1n and the stator Gator...it didn't work. So I used a regular magnet pickup and placed it on the exhaust side of the motor towards the front (the thinnest section of the motor housing), using the flywheel magnet.

This works great, no extra electronic componet to mess with! The VX1n has a built-in governor and it works great!

Electrically it should be compatible with the Stator Gator. What RPM does your engine run at? That is rotor_rpm * gear_ratio.

rcnut · 11-21-2014, 08:13 AM

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Electrically it should be compatible with the Stator Gator. What RPM does your engine run at? That is rotor_rpm * gear_ratio.

Ok, I have the Goblin 700 standard with the gasser conversion kit.
Hanson 300 3D Max motor with RJX muffler.
Spartan Vortex VX1n controller
RC style Stator Gator...initially, now mag pickup

Goblin gear ratio: 7.03:1
Hanson 300 3D Max RPM range 8,000-15,000 RPM

My RPM range in the VX1n: no GOV in normal mode, 1850 in idle 1, and 2050 in idle 2.

SpeeDJ · 02-05-2015, 07:29 AM

hi, i like to use a Vortex Vx1n with the Stator Gator.
Does anybody run this combination. Do you know why this is not working?
Because of the voltage? The signal or why?

in2deep · 02-05-2015, 08:39 AM

After speaking with both Stator Gator and the develpoers at Microbeast I can confirm it will not work with Spektrum/Beastx.

No chance.

rcnut · 02-05-2015, 11:02 AM

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hi, i like to use a Vortex Vx1n with the Stator Gator.
Does anybody run this combination. Do you know why this is not working?
Because of the voltage? The signal or why?

No, the Stator Gator will not work with the Spatan Vortex VX1n or the BeastX. The output signal from the Stator Gator is not compatable with the Vortex.

Sorry, but I've tried...

SpeeDJ · 02-06-2015, 05:04 AM

Do you know the difference of the signal? Is the voltage to low?
Did anybody check with a oszi or something else?

Maybe we can build a little signal converter?

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Originally Posted by rcnut

No, the Stator Gator will not work with the Spatan Vortex VX1n or the BeastX. The output signal from the Stator Gator is not compatable with the Vortex.

Sorry, but I've tried...

in2deep · 02-06-2015, 07:18 AM

Its an analog signal and beastx needs a digital signal. Sounds like the Vortex does too. From what I can tell futaba and vbar are the only ones who can use an analog signal.

Trust me, at least in the beastx side. I'm working with the developers right now to get the gov right for gassers on the Beastx Plus, and the first sensor ruled out was the stator gator.

Unless you can come up with a way to convert analog to digital...

Rudy · 02-07-2015, 10:09 AM

How about just using the sensor that comes with the gov and skipping the stator gator.

A stator gator is NOT required.

4 stroke flyer · 02-09-2015, 10:19 AM

I have a SG for a PUH. how would I go about hooking it up to a RC format motor?
Thanks

carey shurley · 02-09-2015, 01:52 PM

I don't think you will. My understanding is that its not just the connectors that are different. The PUH version takes its feed from a primary/trigger coil, the RC version is taking it from a combined coil.

siegie · 02-12-2015, 02:13 AM

Hi,
I have just finished my first gasser conversion and I use the HWC RC engine which comes with an electronic ignition. The output of the ignition is a trigger signal but the regulators uses as input signal a on off signal (hall sensor). So I made a small print layout wich converts this signal. You need a BC337 transistor which drive the led of a 4N36 optocoupler and an resistor to protect the led of the optocoupler. If someone ist interested in, I can do a hand drawn layout for that which I post here. Everyone who knows on which side a soldering iron ist hot can do this. The cost are minimal. But if you do that it is on your own risk!! I tested it with a Vbar regulator and with an old Webra telemetry system an it works without problems!
Siegfried

Jackass1277 · 01-22-2016, 11:07 PM

Carey I have a question. Is there a stator gator the will work with the gt15hz? I'm a noob to the gas side of helis. I'm converting my trex 700 dfc to gas and I'm looking for a few pointers

carey shurley · 01-23-2016, 06:36 PM

I have not been able to make that work

however, you don't really need it. The primary value of the stator gator is that its not that easy to mount a typical governor sensor for the Zenoah PUH or RC engines. So the Stator Gator simplifies that by simply wiring into the ignition system

However the GT15 uses the standard cooling fan arrangement on the models so you can embed magnets in the fan and mount the governor sensors just as you would with a glow engine.

hope this helps.

cruzroy · 02-01-2016, 08:08 AM

i got a 275 vt trying to setup wookong, and do you set up while engine is running ????

carey shurley · 02-01-2016, 08:38 AM

there's really nothing with the SG to setup, however you wont' get a reading unless the engine is spinning

if you pull the spark plug and spin it with a starter you should get a good reading though

jamesmhc34 · 08-13-2016, 09:06 PM

just finished the gasser build now to tackle the gov. issue using the stator gator and the ikon2 HD

Jay Jay · 10-07-2016, 04:09 PM

How did the ikon 2/stator gator work out? I'm thinking of going that route with the original ikon/brain?

explorin · 10-24-2016, 06:07 PM

it doesnt work. and no way to make it work

get a aerospire rpm sensor and use the fly wheel magnet..you will have to make your own bracket to hold the rpm sensor, and you will remove your kill button but so far it has been working for me. ill post some pictures in a bit.

carey shurley · 10-25-2016, 06:45 PM

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you will have to make your own bracket to hold the rpm sensor, and you will remove your kill button

Not anymore

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=762065

02-05-2015, 08:39 AM	#45 (permalink)
in2deep Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012	After speaking with both Stator Gator and the develpoers at Microbeast I can confirm it will not work with Spektrum/Beastx. No chance. __________________ Whiplash Gasser l Goblin Gasser

02-06-2015, 07:18 AM	#48 (permalink)
in2deep Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012	Its an analog signal and beastx needs a digital signal. Sounds like the Vortex does too. From what I can tell futaba and vbar are the only ones who can use an analog signal. Trust me, at least in the beastx side. I'm working with the developers right now to get the gov right for gassers on the Beastx Plus, and the first sensor ruled out was the stator gator. Unless you can come up with a way to convert analog to digital... __________________ Whiplash Gasser l Goblin Gasser

02-07-2015, 10:09 AM	#49 (permalink)
Rudy Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston TX / Bend Or	How about just using the sensor that comes with the gov and skipping the stator gator. A stator gator is NOT required. __________________ We had a great country once. You know what made it great? “I can.” Then the weak came along, “the I cant’s” and destroyed it.

02-09-2015, 01:52 PM	#51 (permalink)
carey shurley Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	I don't think you will. My understanding is that its not just the connectors that are different. The PUH version takes its feed from a primary/trigger coil, the RC version is taking it from a combined coil. __________________ Carey Shurley Proprietor - Gas Powered Helicopters

01-22-2016, 11:07 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jackass1277 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2011	Carey I have a question. Is there a stator gator the will work with the gt15hz? I'm a noob to the gas side of helis. I'm converting my trex 700 dfc to gas and I'm looking for a few pointers __________________ Goblin 700 Ikon 560ult cc160hv Scale Bell 222 T700, Agusta A109 Grand 700 Blue Thunder 700 RCHN #365 G500,E5 12s,600np dfc, t500 dfc beater

02-05-2015, 07:29 AM	#44 (permalink)
SpeeDJ Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2009	hi, i like to use a Vortex Vx1n with the Stator Gator. Does anybody run this combination. Do you know why this is not working? Because of the voltage? The signal or why?

02-09-2015, 10:19 AM	#50 (permalink)
4 stroke flyer Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2005	I have a SG for a PUH. how would I go about hooking it up to a RC format motor? Thanks

02-12-2015, 02:13 AM	#52 (permalink)
siegie Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2014	Hi, I have just finished my first gasser conversion and I use the HWC RC engine which comes with an electronic ignition. The output of the ignition is a trigger signal but the regulators uses as input signal a on off signal (hall sensor). So I made a small print layout wich converts this signal. You need a BC337 transistor which drive the led of a 4N36 optocoupler and an resistor to protect the led of the optocoupler. If someone ist interested in, I can do a hand drawn layout for that which I post here. Everyone who knows on which side a soldering iron ist hot can do this. The cost are minimal. But if you do that it is on your own risk!! I tested it with a Vbar regulator and with an old Webra telemetry system an it works without problems! Siegfried

01-23-2016, 06:36 PM	#54 (permalink)
carey shurley Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	I have not been able to make that work however, you don't really need it. The primary value of the stator gator is that its not that easy to mount a typical governor sensor for the Zenoah PUH or RC engines. So the Stator Gator simplifies that by simply wiring into the ignition system However the GT15 uses the standard cooling fan arrangement on the models so you can embed magnets in the fan and mount the governor sensors just as you would with a glow engine. hope this helps. __________________ Carey Shurley Proprietor - Gas Powered Helicopters

02-01-2016, 08:08 AM	#55 (permalink)
cruzroy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2010	How do you get the best readings i got a 275 vt trying to setup wookong, and do you set up while engine is running ????

02-01-2016, 08:38 AM	#56 (permalink)
carey shurley Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	there's really nothing with the SG to setup, however you wont' get a reading unless the engine is spinning if you pull the spark plug and spin it with a starter you should get a good reading though __________________ Carey Shurley Proprietor - Gas Powered Helicopters

08-13-2016, 09:06 PM	#57 (permalink)
jamesmhc34 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2015	stator gator just finished the gasser build now to tackle the gov. issue using the stator gator and the ikon2 HD

10-07-2016, 04:09 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jay Jay Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007	How did the ikon 2/stator gator work out? I'm thinking of going that route with the original ikon/brain?

10-24-2016, 06:07 PM	#59 (permalink)
explorin Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Carson Valley NV	it doesnt work. and no way to make it work get a aerospire rpm sensor and use the fly wheel magnet..you will have to make your own bracket to hold the rpm sensor, and you will remove your kill button but so far it has been working for me. ill post some pictures in a bit.

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