Whats your power set up and flight times.

[Turttle]

I am just starting my 600 dfc build and wondering what you guys are running as far as power set up motor esc bec and flight packs.I currently have the 500 size with 3300 mah packs but from what I am hearing thats only going to give me about 4 min flight times and Im thinking more like 7+ min with timer at 5.My power set up is going to be cc 120hv 600fx from kde and still up in the air as far as bec and fligth pack size.Would like to here about your guys set ups equipment flight packs flight time and headspeeds.

[GRIMX]

Rex 600 EFL DFC PRO.

HEAD SPEED 2200 / 2450
CC ICE HV 80 [SET RPM]
KDE 600 XF - 530
PULSE 3300 mAh 45C

Normal sport flight = 12-13 Minutes @ 2200 HS
Mild 3D = 6 Minutes 30 seconds @ 2450 HS

[flyinghigh450]

Mine is stock DFC 600EFL Pro with 3300mAh packs running 2100/2200 and 2300 RPM..Running 2300 RPM my flight time is around 4:30 ..

DFC Trex 600EFL Pro autos at end 4-7 (5 min 53 sec)

Get around another min (5:30) running 2100 RPM....

DFC Trex 600EFL Pro 2100RPM 1-7 (4 min 47 sec)

[Mike A.]

KDE Motor
80HV Gov @ 2300

5 Min on these packs
Revolectrix 3200mah 30c
Sky Lipo 3300man 30c
Gens Ace 3300mah 25c

4 Min on these packs
Turnigy 3000mah 30c

Packs end at about 3.75v

[Mike A.]

Originally Posted by GRIMX

Normal sport flight = 12-13 Minutes @ 2200 HS

What?!?! What is the voltage of your packs after flying 12-13min?

[Turttle]

Nice flighinghigh.Enjoyed the flight video and good old school Metallica


May I ask GRIMX can you share your flight log data.

[Mike A.]

Here is a vid of my flying, I think 5min is the max I'm going to get.

Throwing the 600EFL Pro around (3 min 0 sec)

[Turttle]

I seen this on the KDE sights performance set ups.These guys really like all power set ups but thought I would post.

ALIGN TREX 600E PRO DFC (KDE 600 XT)
ROTOR HEAD: KDE Direct 550/600 Series XT System
MOTOR: KDE Direct 600XF-530 HP, 530Kv
ESC: Castle Creations Phoenix ICE2 HV120
BEC: Castle Creations BEC PRO V2, 6S, 8.0V
LIPOS: VOLTZ THOR 45C 6S1P-3800, (12S)
FLYBARLESS SYSTEM: Mikado VBAR Silverline, V5.3
MAIN GEAR: KDE Direct Slant Main Drive Gear, 112T, MOD1.0
PINION GEAR: ALIGN Slant, 6mm, 13T, MOD1.0
CYCLIC SERVOS: ALIGN DS610
CYCLIC SERVO ARM LENGTH (Center-Center): 18.0mm
TAIL SERVO: MKS HV BLS980
MAIN BLADES: EDGE SE 603mm CF
TAIL BLADES: EDGE SE 95mm CF
HEADSPEED: 2325 rpm, +/- 14.5° Pitch Range

FLIGHT TIME ESTIMATE (EXTREME 3D): 5.5 Minutes
[YOUTUBE][ame]http://youtu.be/tr0yivu5eN4[/ame]

[Turttle]

[QUOTE=Mike A.;5010268]Here is a vid of my flying, I think 5min is the max I'm going to get.

Thanks mike for sharring.I am a little bummed out about short flights with the 3300 packs as I purchased the 500 and 600 to be able to share the packs but now I am thinking 3700 thors possibly......How is the stock hv 80 holding up.Is it about the bear min.May I ask what is the max amp draw.

[GRIMX]

Originally Posted by Mike A.

What?!?! What is the voltage of your packs after flying 12-13min?

I really don't know but next time I take her up I will check voltages.

And to make it perfectly clear 12 to 13 minutes causal sport flying no 3D or anything radical.

[GRIMX]

Originally Posted by Turttle

May I ask GRIMX can you share your flight log data.

Sure thing. I am looking at a 4 day weekend coming up this weekend I will get back to you on the flight log, stand by to stand by

[Mike A.]

Originally Posted by Turttle

How is the stock hv 80 holding up.Is it about the bear min.May I ask what is the max amp draw.

On my hardest flights I see a few peaks to 95A which is fine for the 80hv. The are very short peaks. Maybe 4-5 for a hard flight. I have about 500 flights on mine.

[Superior]

Heli/Trex 660 pro
Motor/ Scorpion Hk 4035, 560Kv]:
Esc/Castle Creations Phoenix ICE2 HV80
BEC/Castle Creations Pro 7.2 volt output
Lipos/ Sky lipo 30C 5S1P-4400 (10S)
Fbl system/Beast x
Main gear/ Stock
Cyclic servos/ Align Ds610
Tail servo/Align Ds650
Main blades/ Align 600mm
Tail blades/ Stock
Head speed/normal 1850 stunt (1) 1950 stunt (2) 2300 rpm, 14° Collective & 13°cyclic
Flight time/ normal 11 min stunt (1) 10 min stunt (2) 9 min
Flying style/ 3d

[guyken]

Did your scorpion fit right in or .. and what pinion ? stock ? Heard somewhere that motor shaft isnot long enough

[Superior]

Originally Posted by guyken

Did your scorpion fit right in or .. and what pinion ? stock ? Heard somewhere that motor shaft isnot long enough

The 4035 fit with a little mod of the servo using cf servo mounts just cut in half so the motor dont rub the servo an im using the stock pinion. The shaft on the motor is just long enough to go into the bearing but all the way through

[Turttle]

Uggg.Memorial day sales and no one seems to have the 600fx 530 I ended up emailing kde and asked if they were having any sales but I dont think I have ever seen them have any.I did end up getting a good deal on a cc hv2 120 amp the latest model for 130 not to bad.

[13kawasaki13]

The 600xf is a power hungry monster if you want power get the kde but if you want flight time stay with the stock align 600mx I'm using the 600 mx with 3300mah 30c packs with a 100% flat throttle curve and at exactly the 5 minute mark my esc hits the low voltage detection so I usually come in for a landing 10 seconds before 5 minutes

[HFMan]

Have you ever flown a 600XF? I found that it is actually more efficient and my flight times changed very little.

If you are flying nearly to cutoff voltage, your batteries are not going to last very long.

[Turttle]

Originally Posted by 13kawasaki13

The 600xf is a power hungry monster if you want power get the kde but if you want flight time stay with the stock align 600mx I'm using the 600 mx with 3300mah 30c packs with a 100% flat throttle curve and at exactly the 5 minute mark my esc hits the low voltage detection so I usually come in for a landing 10 seconds before 5 minutes

Yeah I kinda want to stay away from aligns electronics.I am running the kde in my 500 pro and it has not affected flight time.I also have one for my 450 but the scorpion in that one is flying just fine on 3s.Kde is a larger motor and a little heavier like its ment for more juice or a larger bird but my flight times have been equal with the scorpion motors both are very efficient and use quality magnets windings bearings and build quality.I think the scorpions low ball there kv rating though the scorpion seems a little faster per volt but the kde has noticably more pull.But there smoother and come down cool to the touch like 20 dagrease cooler.600 mx is a good motor for the money spent but I think on this bird Im going to pute the good stuff in and kinda future proof my electronics in case I go bigger

[Turttle]

Originally Posted by Superior

Heli/Trex 660 pro
Motor/ Scorpion Hk 4035, 560Kv]:
Esc/Castle Creations Phoenix ICE2 HV80
BEC/Castle Creations Pro 7.2 volt output
Lipos/ Sky lipo 30C 5S1P-4400 (10S)
Fbl system/Beast x
Main gear/ Stock
Cyclic servos/ Align Ds610
Tail servo/Align Ds650
Main blades/ Align 600mm
Tail blades/ Stock
Head speed/normal 1850 stunt (1) 1950 stunt (2) 2300 rpm, 14° Collective & 13°cyclic
Flight time/ normal 11 min stunt (1) 10 min stunt (2) 9 min
Flying style/ 3d

Those are the numbers I am looking forI just purchased the kde I think the kv is a little lower than the scorpion.I dont think it is as good of a match for this set up but may I ask can you really tell a difference between the 10s and 12s set up.Im really not a stick banger just layed back 3d tic tocs and hard clime outs just aerobatic stuff nothing competetive I guess I would say.But this is deffinately the flight times I am looking for.No fun if you charge half the day just to get 5min per pack tops$..These are the numbers I am getting on my 500 with 6s 3300 get my fix and still plenty of juice left in the packs.