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Old 10-05-2011, 02:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Futaba 92557 VS DS520

Helli- what servo is the best fore Protos with the beastx/
I am allso going too streatch the bird :-)

To day i use the Futaba Roger er with the beast, but i am not shure
like it ?

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Old 10-05-2011, 06:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mks 8910 or a full size tail servo.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Align DS650, Savox 1290MG, Futaba S9254 or BLS251.

i had some flight´s with DS520, for hovering ok...
MKS DS8910 was almost ok, but full-size is way better. get a full size! it fits without modification.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you want a one time purchase.....full size is the only choice. The cheapest is definately the savox, but personally id go with the mks ds760p.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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MKS BLS990... It's the way to go
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Will a S9650 work? I have BX coming and have all 4 servos S9650 Only FS servos I have are Hitec 5645MG steering servos n 605 throttles. Probibally too slow they will be huh
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Will a S9650 work? I have BX coming and have all 4 servos S9650 Only FS servos I have are Hitec 5645MG steering servos n 605 throttles. Probibally too slow they will be huh
that servo is WAY slow. wouldnt work at all. go ahead an spend the money on the best you can get. a very fast brushless tail servo will last you forever.
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Well the 9650 is working and will have to work atleast till Xmas I think.

Guess theres more on my damn list...
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You can always buy the s9257 gears, put them into the s9650 and you will end up with a tail servo.
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You can always buy the s9257 gears, put them into the s9650 and you will end up with a tail servo.
Just he gears is all that's required? Thx alot for that info I'll order gears tonight then for sure!


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I suggest that you forget the mini size tail servo. The savox 1290 is quite remarkable on my 550 I still think that the savox brand is better than the rebaged align versions. Short cuts in manufacturing obviously needed for align to purchase and sell these servos as name brand but who knows , I could be barking up a tree but my experience leads me to think that the savox is better than align. I wont buy anything with the align stamp on it anymore anyway's
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The 9257 gears will turn the 9650 into a 9257. It should be not run at 6v, though.
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The 9257 gears will turn the 9650 into a 9257. It should be not run at 6v, though.
Why? The 9650 can be run at 6v and your using the same electronics.
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Why? The 9650 can be run at 6v and your using the same electronics.
i believe the servo shouldn't be overspeeded. At 6v, it will move much faster and with the new gearing it could overheat. That's why the 9257 is rated for less voltage.
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I'm runnig a 9257 and it works OK but is marginal at best. You better have a perfectly smooth and free tail or it will stall. I couldn't even use the thrusted tail with it!
I'm going to a 9253 to see how that works.
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i believe the servo shouldn't be overspeeded. At 6v, it will move much faster and with the new gearing it could overheat. That's why the 9257 is rated for less voltage.
Not buyin that. Changing gears just changes the output shaft speed. it does not overspeed the motor or anything. But, it would add extra load to the motor. Bu no different than adding more load to the 9650. More load could burn the servo out tho I guess. but it isnt overspeeding

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I'm runnig a 9257 and it works OK but is marginal at best. You better have a perfectly smooth and free tail or it will stall. I couldn't even use the thrusted tail with it!
I'm going to a 9253 to see how that works.
really? I find the 9650 holds for me, it is slow, as I have delay about 35 on the GY401. But I've never had a blowout with it. Heck, I once flew a 450 with a HS 605 car servo!!! Slow and heavy yes, but I could fly none the less.
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The 9650 has more torque than the 9257 because of the gearing. The 9257 is more than fast enough it just doesn't have enough torque. Especially if you are running the KBDD tail blades.
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bandit, the 9257 is OK for sport flying, but once you put a load on the tail your heli is going to be pointing the wrong way. go ahead and get a full size. twice the torque and faster than the 9257.
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Any model numbers for reference? There is so many sized now, it's hard to keep track
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These work great!!!
The speed/torque is the same but the 251 is a little heavier due to the gears/casing.
53 oz-in .06sec BLS254 51g BLS251 61g 4.8V
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