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12-04-2013, 10:02 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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My 130X flies great. But due to the amount of money to keep it flying I could not recommend it. I've had to change torque tubes, tail gears and tail case more than once. Since I've upgraded these parts it seems to be flying longer between having to buy replacements. Still a finicky heli that needs constant attention.
I personally would wait for the first reviews of the Trex 150 before buying one. It should be a great 3D machine like the Mcpx bl. My Mcpx bl is not a good sport flying heli at all. The interesting thing will be if it can fly regular sport better the the Mcpx bl. If it can I'll be getting one. If anyone is interested her is a link to the new Trex 150 manual. http://ms.align.com.tw/mpeg/manuals/...s/RH15E01X.pdf Things like the roll rate dial on page 13 might be helpful for the newer flyers. |
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12-04-2013, 10:35 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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the align 150 batteries, look like they are plastic cased which serves as the plug.
and the mah rating was 250, don't know what i think about that, it didn't make me smile. they sure made it look slim and crammed a lot of stuff in tight, i'm sure that makes it agile and fast, but if it continually breaks because its fragile, well that just makes a hole for Lynx to save us. (again) but, hey it can't be a bigger money pit than the 130x. that aside, I bet it flies great. and the second it gets into the hands of the modding public, i think that 150 is gonna be scary incredible, look at what the mcpx did, and look where the mcpx is now with all its versions. i just might get one, add to the fleet, i've always liked my mcpx hp06 v2 w/ hp03t, on blheli, its wicked fast and dang near bullet proof, its just batteries don't last long. |
12-05-2013, 03:50 AM | #23 (permalink) | ||||||
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A size comp between the Align T-rex 150 vs mcpx bl .... And another flight...of the 150
-And how to bind to the Spektrum Well... i really don't know But one thing i see, because i could be newbie to helis but i am experience on rc cars... Blade is like traxxas and ALIGN is like Mugen. And the T-REX 150 is bling bling out of the box as quality blings adds to funcionality/durability! Maybe now the 130x and next year the 250 of align... i was looking at the 300x and love it to! But not for now... I will buy one bird each year! |
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12-05-2013, 04:13 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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For me the 130x was not good at all, nothing but problems with mine it flew great while it was flying but things kept breaking in flight, even wires coming off in flight 3 times due to bad solder jobs.
I am hoping that the t rex 150 will be more reliable, sent from my tablet, spelling may be worse than usual.
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12-05-2013, 04:27 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Re: Help needed, and need the TRUE! 130x or T-REX 150?
If you got 250 to add spend id get a 300x just cause of the fbl unit and you already got the dx6i so is a good choice and then get a 150 the 130x is a money pit. .. just look it up you will see for your self
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12-05-2013, 06:19 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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Help needed, and need the TRUE! 130x or T-REX 150?
I wish I could help out on the 130x front, but since mine has been grounded before I could even try it, I can't comment on its performance. I do have a wild brushless nano that is quite the handful to fly. I also have a mcpx bl, and v2 mcpx brushless. I can honestly say that the modified v2 flies much better than the HH version. It has more power, seems much more stable, and is just that much more fun to fly.
I like the idea of the trex 150, but with a motor driven tail and the size which is more like an mcpx bl, in my opinion, it's not really in the same class as the 130x. I do like the idea of rotary servos vs linear, but I haven't had to replace any of the linear servos in any of my micros( idk, maybe I'm lucky) In the end, it really comes down to what you want. If you find the nano hard to control, then something a bit bigger would fit the bill, but if you truly want a heli that is cheap, binds to spektrum, and performs well, I would choose the mcpx v2...it's my favorite heli, as well as the one I learned cp flight with V2 bl, mcpx bl, nano bl, 130x, nano qx, DX6i
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12-05-2013, 06:52 AM | #27 (permalink) |
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If you're still just hovering a Nano, I'd avoid getting the 130x.
I like the way 130x flies. But it is still very toy-like in build quality, except for the part that if it's not working right, it can be a pain in the ass to fix. If you have a good degree of mechanical inclination and like to tinker with stuff, the 130x is great. You will tinker with it, and over time you probably will have issues. HH will nickle and dime you to death if you buy everything new. Luckily I knew this when I started looking for mine because I bought almost all of my stuff used. The 130x is fun to fly, it has great presence, and if you're a tech geek, it has a lot of moving parts and a mechanical tail. If you just want something to fly and will probably crash a lot, the 130x is probably not for you. There are at least a half dozen different reasons you could have tail vibration issues, maybe more. One thing for certain, if you're interested in learning how to troubleshoot and maintain a helicopter, this one will give you plenty of opportunity to do so. Sadly, there is not much in this size range that is actually high quality. That's why I'm geeking out on the Gaui X2 right now.
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12-05-2013, 07:41 AM | #28 (permalink) | ||||
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Well
My nano cpx is a 197mm heli....rotor 197mm Video of mine, and what i can do (only)
SO i am on the market for a new bigger bird for my dx6i and: -Mcpx BL is a 250mm heli...rotor 263mm -130X is a 305mm heli ... rotor 325mm -Align T-Rex 150 is a 255mm heli...rotor 271mm Going google that gaui x2, Now... EDIT (To much for me now) Thank you all for the awsner's and the bigger indecision, that's what i wanted for asking! |
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12-05-2013, 10:10 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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I'd just play with your nano, work on your orientations and such. The BL is a handful in beginners hands. I still get a beginners 'oh s**t' adrenaline rush just from putting the BL in the air that I don't get with the 130x anymore. I'd say get comfortable with doing all the basic FFF stuff before deciding on a new purchase. I wish I could have given myself this advice because I certainly didn't do this. Of course, get whatever you want. I don't want to discourage you at all.
I'm still a beginner, I don't do acro or 3D at all yet, but I can fly my ncpx crazy in my living room and fly into a super stable hover inches from my head without any real effort like you would a co-ax toy. Nose in, tail in, sideways...whatever. I've only been flying cp for about 2 months without any sim time. Don't really look at the rotor size so much. The mcpx v2 is nearly the same size and nearly the same in construction as the BL... they're worlds apart in how they feel in the air and in raw power. The ncpx and mcpx v2 and even the 130x are relatively docile and tame in comparison. The 130x flies great, but once it starts getting banged up, you'll start spending more and more time on the bench. I haven't even flown my Gaui x2 or Warp 360 yet and I wasn't recommending it to you. It's probably too advanced for me at the moment, but I got tired of that calculated Horizon Hobby "make it so it breaks enough to keep the parts moving off the LHS shelf" mentality. Many things are purposely under-designed to keep stocking dealers happy with a nice profit margin. Sorry for the wall-of-text. I type fast and have a huge monitor, so by the time I'm done there are usually more words than I intended. lol
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12-05-2013, 10:32 AM | #30 (permalink) | |
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Big screen? 30'' DELL? Or runing projector 150'' while texting? Don't worry as long as i understand the english!
I want a bigger heli...and want brushless power for it's longevity, because i fly 2 to 3 times a week (meaning 3 packs each time) Anyway i apreciate all the info i can gather! Guai is overkill for me this time and ever. I will never go 3D... i just don't have the brains for it... but i like to play around with those machines, but not 3D style! I understand that crap of HH make things to change after 50packs of fun, then buy new stuff, and buy, buy!! lol. That way it just makes me runs forever and never go to that brand. It's the case of the blade nano cpx motors.... can't they make a motor with brushes to change, replace instead of those disposable motors.... money pit... I will only fall the first time... Customers are not donkeys! ONE THING i notice is that the 130x will be a very ultra high maintenance heli... but with aftermakert stuff will that supposed to end? Or only last a little more...with the aftermarket stuff in my opinion it will end that HH filosofy , OR....because of only the servos... Main culp is there servos? They can't be changed to normal servo's or can? Quote:
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If you decide you like the 130x enough to start changing electronics.... You're likely to have already moved at least to a metal tail, swash and head assy. Sure, change out the servos, then add a esc, fbl and sat... and you could have had a 450x or another less problematic heli by then. I bought the Gaui for that reason alone. From most user experiences, it flies like a larger 130x, but is far higher quality and has far more power leaving almost nothing needing upgrade. But if you rarely crash a stock 130x, then you'll be saving... but also be in the minority. Also, don't fall into that "start small and work bigger" mentality. I had that and still kinda do, but I've been regretting it a little. Most vets around here will tell you that bigger birds fly better and once you get the basic grasp of a smaller cp to take the jump to a 450... and while devastating crashes are far more expensive and small crash costs will be higher, many of the larger heli parts are cheaper or similarly priced to their micro counterparts. The 130x is a neat heli and a lot of people love it, but even most of them say it's not for everyone. There is probably more hate for the 130x than I've seen for a lot of other helis too. Buy one and enjoy it! I like mine.
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12-05-2013, 12:05 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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All heli's are money pits. I bought a very well maintained used 130 with a Microhelli complete tail assy and metal a & b gears (saved about $200.00 from the get go). Added a carbon fiber torque shaft from lynx, CNA glued the plastic C gear to the tail shaft, put an extended tail boom brace on it from Lynx and otherwise stock. Had a few issues learning how to work on it at first as it is soo small. But once I learned a bit about it and got it dialed in after my first stripped D gear, it is flying great!
To bad about the crappy servos, havent had a problem yet, but I cleaned them all with Deoxit, but will probably go to a Lynx tail servo at least. Tail is a good as it gets. May upgrade the bearings. Yes, there is maintainance and some people just arn't up to it. If you want to fly helis, High quality or not. Parts will break and you will crash. Heli's demand a person that likes to tinker with mechanical things. But if you are looking at a 130x, I would recommend buying a used one with some of the good upgrades already done. |
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There have been some really good deals out there. I'm into the 130x at about $330 total... I have one full stock flying bird, an almost complete MH airframe with the rest of the parts to complete it with a Lynx motor, and all the parts to comple a 3rd except for a frame which is in the mail... with spare parts for all three of them. And a HP08 and a Spin as spares. I just need to find the time to complete them. lol
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12-05-2013, 02:24 PM | #34 (permalink) | |
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12-05-2013, 04:24 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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Add me to the list of people that have a love/hate relationship with my 130X. I love it when it's flying right. It's very stable and yet responsive (when the tail servo isn't in need of cleaning or replacing), and after I swapped out the stock motor for the Lynx motor, it has good power.
On the down side, it take a lot of work to keep it flying. I don't crash much, but when the B or C gear gives out (and they will) and you're in the middle of a high speed maneuver good luck keeping it off the ground. Once it hits the ground it is usually OK, but I have been through 4 frames, multiple tail booms, a number of sets of rotors, main shaft, ... I've also replaced the tail servo twice (I'm on my third servo). The tail servo flys great for a while, then you have to start cleaning it. Each time you clean it, the number of flights you get out of it till the next cleaning gets fewer until the point you just give up and put in a new servo. Once the Lynx tail servos get back in stock I'll get one and hopefully the tail wag issue will be gone. |
12-06-2013, 03:35 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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So those tail lynx servo will make the 130x right about the tail. Good news.
As for the other 2 servos of the 130x, is there a possibility to put real servos like those tail lynx in the place of the 2 other HH ones? Let me know. thanks |
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I am very interested in see if we can put the other 2 servos like normal servos just like this one from tail on photo! And i am asking that because i have no idea if it's possible, so go easy! I am not a Heli guy! I am going to buy the 130x only if i know if the 3 servos can be done with aftermarket servos. Other way i will not "food" HH anymore! when they fail... i was hope doing this:
But have no ideas of that 2 side servos if had to custom or fab something... EDIT: (this helps what i am asking... ) http://www.microheli.com/store/produ...oducts_id/1034 That crap will solve the servo issues of the 130x forever till they die, right? At least will last 3 years more then the 3months of the HH money pit... right or wrong? -Crash aside |
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12-06-2013, 03:16 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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Your assumption is incorrect. In fact, almost everyone I know that has a 130X uses the stock servos on them. I only know one or two guys locally that has a rotary servo on the tail and not because they had issues with the stock servo (and that's out of at last 20-30 130X helis). That puts me in the majority, doesn't it? I'd be willing to bet that the majority of 130X owners that switched to rotary servos only did so because they "heard" it was better. You see that a lot in this hobby...people swap out perfectly good parts for what they hear is better. I'm guilty of that myself.
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