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Old 04-05-2014, 05:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Plank landed into heli transmitter while starting motor

This is why we need spotters, people. Imagine what would have happened if the heli motor was already running.

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Old 04-05-2014, 06:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you sure that wasn't deliberate?
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If there was any sort of improvement to the layout of that field it would help too. look like a free for all as far as having proper places to do things like land or state heli motors. glad we're more organized at my field, otherwise id go back to renegade flying.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are you sure that wasn't deliberate?
looked like it to me !!!
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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why was that landing in what appears to be the pit area??????
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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We have had "renegade " funfly's in my area with 5 or 6 guys with out issues.
We simply follow AMA rules as best we can and use common sense.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Plank landed into heli transmitter while starting motor

What is renegade ? Lol but to be honest I would never setup my bird with my TX behind me while another guy is flying a plane 20' away. Too dangerous and the plane pilot appears to be a noob at that


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Old 04-05-2014, 07:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well, the plank had one wing a bit loose (you can see it when he's picking it up, it was like that before it landed) and the pilot did not take his eyes from his plank and wanted to land it close to himself. He didn't notice there was someone so close the runway.

The heli pilot could be blamed for starting his heli practically on the runway. Personally I can understand not wanting to carry a 600 size heli with the motor idling in your hands.

That is kind of the problem with belly-landing planes:
If you land it properly aligned to the runway, you have to go walk on the runway to get it which is fairly dangerous with the other models flying and wanting to land on there.
If you land it close to you, you might fly into someone because you're not aware of your surroundings.

I got into the habit of looking around myself for a few seconds before taking off, to register all the people (pilots, bystanders, joggers, animals) and judging if it's safe to take off.
When landing, while the model is cruising into the approach position, I look right, left and behind me shouting "landing in 5 [seconds] from the right".
I also announce that I'm crossing the runway (to place or pick up my model) and wait for confirmation from every pilot before walking out. That seems to work.
It's all strictly regulated in the club's rules but the long time members seem to respect those the least.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Pretty sure it isn't deliberate. Unless I misread it, it is pretty hard to replicate the body language of the guilty look back as he picks it up, and the sorry type run, crouching down as he runs with short steps to demonstrate that he is sorry and ready for retribution. making a cautious approach whilst still pretending to be quick. Dunno for sure, but that's how it looks to me.

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It would have sucked if the heli pilot knelt forward like he did, lost his balance and knelled right down on his bird.

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Old 04-05-2014, 09:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It my field we have a pit, a 25 foot separation area, and then the runway. You turn on your tx/get set up in the separation area, and you land in the middle of the runway. Aircraft are not allowed to cross from runway into separation area while in flight, and you will get in trouble if you make a habit of doing so.

Works wonders to prevent something like this from happening
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The heli pilot appears to be either looking at his transmitter or over his shoulder watching the plane approach. It looks like he may have pulled his arm out of the way just before the plane hit the gound the first time.
I have to wonder if it was staged too.
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[QUOTE=Crowbar;5760812]This is why we need spotters, people. Imagine what would have happened if the heli motor was already running.

If the heli was running the guy would have already been in a bad place
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Why would they stage this and for what purpose? Assuming the plane pilot is so good that he staged getting close but not actually hitting and damaging the heli you have to ask why.

Looks to me like poor planning and lack of awareness of your surroundings. Glad nobody was hurt.
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Why would they stage this and for what purpose?
To get linked in forums, get lots of views and go "viral"??
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To get linked in forums, get lots of views and go "viral"??

Oh, so they can be on the "I'm a dumb ass and can't fly safely" circuit. It really was not that interesting of a video. I think the only people who care are the few of us on forums like HF.
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I didn't say it would work, just a possible reason.

And they wound up on that "I'm a dumb ass and can't fly safely" circuit intentional or not.
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He didn't notice there was someone so close the runway. Did he let anyone know he was landing?

The heli pilot could be blamed for starting his heli practically on the runway. Personally I can understand not wanting to carry a 600 size heli with the motor idling in your hands. Its UP TO EVERYONE to make sure the flying site is safe. Safety is no accident.

That is kind of the problem with belly-landing planes:
If you land it properly aligned to the runway, you have to go walk on the runway to get it which is fairly dangerous with the other models flying and wanting to land on there.
If you land it close to you, you might fly into someone because you're not aware of your surroundings. There is no problem with belly-landing planes. Its up to the pilot to let everyone know they are going onto the field to get the plane. Everyone should already know the plane came in as the pilot should have called out "landing". Its up to the pilot to make sure its safe to get the plane. Its up to the other pilot's to give enough time for the model to be retrieved.

I got into the habit of looking around myself for a few seconds before taking off, to register all the people (pilots, bystanders, joggers, animals) and judging if it's safe to take off. Calling out "taking off" is a sure way to let everyone know a model is taking off.
When landing, while the model is cruising into the approach position, I look right, left and behind me shouting "landing in 5 [seconds] from the right".
I also announce that I'm crossing the runway (to place or pick up my model) and wait for confirmation from every pilot before walking out. That seems to work.
It's all strictly regulated in the club's rules but the long time members seem to respect those the least.
I really hate seeing video's like that. Lucky that nothing bad happened....wont always happen that way though. We don't use spotters at our field unless an event is going on. We do however, call out our intensions before making them. We have 3D planes, normal planes, gliders, and a heli (one at a time unless they are micro's) flying at the same time without issue. We all respect the airspace of the other models...and each other.
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Take turns flying and crap like this won't happen.

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Take turns flying and crap like this won't happen.

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