ICE 100 govener stall

Richard Best · 06-01-2012, 06:45 AM

anybody had a stall I must be running to much gear??
been trying to get mavrick 550 g5 wide chord blades to work...
was ripping up stock gears went to 700e 112 main gear w/13 tooth pinion
to get the headspeed i wanted n/2100 1/2300 2/2500
am i looking for too much???

Hoosiermo1 · 06-01-2012, 09:22 AM

I believe you are way over geared. Stock 550e comes with 11t pinion, without gov. That's capable of 2700 easy.
With cc gov your stuck around 2250 on 11t. I don't think 13t is a great idea. That's some serious work on the system.

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mtuccio · 06-01-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoosiermo1

I believe you are way over geared. Stock 550e comes with 11t pinion, without gov. That's capable of 2700 easy.
With cc gov your stuck around 2250 on 11t. I don't think 13t is a great idea. That's some serious work on the system.

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I would agree that 13T is a bit extreme on the gearing for the 550E for running with a Governor on the 112T Helical. You could try a 12T if you are looking for a bit more headspeed but I would definitely stay away from the 13T. Even with the 12T you could run into some issue depending on what headspeed you are looking at....What version ESC software are you running?

Richard Best · 06-02-2012, 10:42 AM

Well this is what i was thinking while i was thinking about changing gearing on my truggy motor temps and what not.
I have'nt put a temp gun on the motor but def. running hotter than it was.
just cant understand why i can't get my desired head speed whith a supposedly better esc.
I have reduced pitch values some and will prob. try the 12t. pinion and reduce head speeds.
i havent flown it sinc reducing pitch waiting on weather.....

Richard Best · 06-02-2012, 10:55 AM

Oh by the way I before the stall I had just loaded the latest version I think 4.0
Also whith stock main gear with one tooth up on pinion 17t and 520 blades i had 2300 in f mode 3 with no prob was just wanting a little more.
had head tached at 2400 with stock esc. governed just seems so much slower.
should i just go back to fixed end points?
will thecc esc let me get a higher head speed then?

Hoosiermo1 · 06-02-2012, 01:22 PM

Yes if you go fixed end point on esc and run flat 90-100 with stock 11t and 112t you can run 2600 wide open or better. Its just castle gov want 10% overhead with median voltage. I notice much improved flight times at the lower 2200 gov. So it works well for me. You also have same hs at end of pack as at beginning. Where that doesn't happen with fixed endpoint.

Richard Best · 06-02-2012, 01:54 PM

what size blades are you running?
i was one tooth up from stock as i said earlier 520 blades tp 4400 65c pack 5min.flight time putting like 3500 mah. back in...

1004ron · 06-02-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Best

Oh by the way I before the stall I had just loaded the latest version I think 4.0

There's known issues, like cut-outs, with that version.

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=400943

mtuccio · 06-02-2012, 04:48 PM

I would step the firmware back to 3.27 and you might find out that your porblems go away...The 4.00 firware has some issues as 1004ron has already pointed out...

Hoosiermo1 · 06-02-2012, 08:30 PM

4.0 doesn't even show up as an option for me. They have replaced it with 4.1 which works very well.

Richard Best · 06-04-2012, 09:16 AM

went back to 3.27 also took away some cyclic pitch every thing seems fine....
thinking it was a 4.0 prob. will start putting the pitch back and watchin the log...
thanks for all the help.....

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06-01-2012, 06:45 AM	#1
Richard Best Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: norton ma.02766	ICE 100 govener stall anybody had a stall I must be running to much gear?? been trying to get mavrick 550 g5 wide chord blades to work... was ripping up stock gears went to 700e 112 main gear w/13 tooth pinion to get the headspeed i wanted n/2100 1/2300 2/2500 am i looking for too much???

06-04-2012, 09:16 AM	#11
Richard Best Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: norton ma.02766	went back to 3.27 also took away some cyclic pitch every thing seems fine.... thinking it was a 4.0 prob. will start putting the pitch back and watchin the log... thanks for all the help.....:

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06-01-2012, 09:22 AM	#2
Hoosiermo1 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bloomington,indiana	I believe you are way over geared. Stock 550e comes with 11t pinion, without gov. That's capable of 2700 easy. With cc gov your stuck around 2250 on 11t. I don't think 13t is a great idea. That's some serious work on the system. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

06-02-2012, 10:42 AM	#4
Richard Best Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: norton ma.02766	Well this is what i was thinking while i was thinking about changing gearing on my truggy motor temps and what not. I have'nt put a temp gun on the motor but def. running hotter than it was. just cant understand why i can't get my desired head speed whith a supposedly better esc. I have reduced pitch values some and will prob. try the 12t. pinion and reduce head speeds. i havent flown it sinc reducing pitch waiting on weather.....

06-02-2012, 10:55 AM	#5
Richard Best Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: norton ma.02766	Oh by the way I before the stall I had just loaded the latest version I think 4.0 Also whith stock main gear with one tooth up on pinion 17t and 520 blades i had 2300 in f mode 3 with no prob was just wanting a little more. had head tached at 2400 with stock esc. governed just seems so much slower. should i just go back to fixed end points? will thecc esc let me get a higher head speed then?

06-02-2012, 01:22 PM	#6
Hoosiermo1 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bloomington,indiana	Yes if you go fixed end point on esc and run flat 90-100 with stock 11t and 112t you can run 2600 wide open or better. Its just castle gov want 10% overhead with median voltage. I notice much improved flight times at the lower 2200 gov. So it works well for me. You also have same hs at end of pack as at beginning. Where that doesn't happen with fixed endpoint.

06-02-2012, 01:54 PM	#7
Richard Best Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: norton ma.02766	what size blades are you running? i was one tooth up from stock as i said earlier 520 blades tp 4400 65c pack 5min.flight time putting like 3500 mah. back in...

06-02-2012, 04:48 PM	#9
mtuccio Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Upstate NY	I would step the firmware back to 3.27 and you might find out that your porblems go away...The 4.00 firware has some issues as 1004ron has already pointed out...

06-02-2012, 08:30 PM	#10
Hoosiermo1 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bloomington,indiana	4.0 doesn't even show up as an option for me. They have replaced it with 4.1 which works very well.