Nano CP S is coming! :-)

[JonJet]

Originally Posted by Miracle Boy

Humm, rather disappointing!! I was expecting to see a brushless main motor at least. This thing is still going to need a brushless motor and esc fitted in there somewhere. Still, at least the main board should be a bit more protected from damage in it's new lay-down configuration.

One thing I really don't like the look of, and I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned it so far.... The tail motor looks to be deliberately tilted up at an angle. Why, how can that help? It just looks silly.

And those two extra plugs that are not connected to anything on the main board? For a future BL upgrade kit maybe, or another opportunity fleace more cash out of us buy forcing us to buy yet another USB flash stick to carry out firmware updates, like the 180 CFX. Or am I just being cynical?

MB

Tilting the tail motor could be an optical illusion or an accidental install...or possibly and attempt to correct the typical "right lean" of the heli...either permanently or for testing/production

[SHYguy]

Originally Posted by JonJet

Tilting the tail motor could be an optical illusion or an accidental install...or possibly and attempt to correct the typical "right lean" of the heli...either permanently or for testing/production

My guess: In a hurry and messed up

[Synchronome]

Tilting the tail rotor can also be used to correct any cog issues

[Miracle Boy]

Originally Posted by PawnDMonium

"Those connectors are for development, and they won't be on the production models."
Brian James

https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=17

Ah, thanks for that. I did wonder, since I can't find that pic (with the wires in it) in any of the marketing pics. Anybody know where that pic came from?

MB

[Miracle Boy]

Originally Posted by JonJet

Tilting the tail motor could be an optical illusion or an accidental install...or possibly and attempt to correct the typical "right lean" of the heli...either permanently or for testing/production

I sure looks tilted in that pic, but I'm beginning to think that they just straightened the tail fin, rather than the whole tail, or that it is indeed just an optical illusion. The tail motor looks straight enough in the promo video.

MB

[yakky]

Originally Posted by blue92ehsi

I might try that for the backyard

You won't be disappointed when it comes to power. My throttle curve tops out at 55% and it feels like it has about 25% more power than my MCPX. I can't imagine it at 100%.

[PawnDMonium]

Originally Posted by Miracle Boy

Ah, thanks for that. I did wonder, since I can't find that pic (with the wires in it) in any of the marketing pics. Anybody know where that pic came from?

MB

Pic with wires on this page:
http://www.bladehelis.com/NanoCPS/

Pic with tilted tail motor on this page:
http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/R...ing#quickMedia

[SHYguy]

OK so judging by the silence I guess there's no piro comp and the main motor is the not so good old one...

[GoatRider]

Originally Posted by SHYguy

OK so judging by the silence I guess there's no piro comp and the main motor is the not so good old one...

I think the silence would indicate nobody outside HH knows at this point.

[JohnCC]

Blade is in business like everyone else to make a profit... and the fact is... they'll sell these easy at a much greater profit margin without all of the upgrades that we like. Average joe on the street who picks one of these up is not going to be all "oh god it's not brushless and doesn't have a cnc swash plate!" Kind of sad because it would be great if it was better quality, but in reality they can get away without it.

We'll see how well their brushed motor survives...

It's nice that they haven't abandoned this form factor though. I kind of thought it was maybe done-fore with the quad craze.

[krackum]

Anybody know what the "damping plate and damper" are under new parts for the nano CP S? Maybe something under the new board placement?

[SHYguy]

Originally Posted by JohnCC

Blade is in business like everyone else to make a profit... and the fact is... they'll sell these easy at a much greater profit margin without all of the upgrades that we like. Average joe on the street who picks one of these up is not going to be all "oh god it's not brushless and doesn't have a cnc swash plate!" Kind of sad because it would be great if it was better quality, but in reality they can get away without it.

We'll see how well their brushed motor survives...

It's nice that they haven't abandoned this form factor though. I kind of thought it was maybe done-fore with the quad craze.

Sure! And there's no crisis if it still don't have piro comp. But if it still has the "old" main brushed motor - then that's a real shame. Even the noob outside of HF will be disappointed when/if it dies after 10-20 flights...

If it's impossible to make a reliable main brushed motor this size - then I'd highly recommend brushless, even if the selling price will be a bit higher. That motor was/is THE achilles heel of the Nano. HH knows this, and no word as to any changes to it is worrying... Until I get confirmed that it's a whole new motor I won't order one. Then I'd rather continue with Benedikt's MMW brushed motor and brushless outrunner conversions. SAFE is no trigger for me.

Oh and the will now bind issue after a rather short while they'd better have looked into as well.

[firekat]

I thought the nCPS has a different part number for the motor than the nCPX?

SHYguy; that's what you have posted on the lead post of this thread?

[JonJet]

Originally Posted by firekat

I thought the nCPS has a different part number for the motor than the nCPX?

Two things (and only two things) are certain...

1) The nCPS has a new part number for the main motor
2) The main motor connector is updated

No way to know if the main motor is "new" or updated until more info is released

[Brian James]

Yes, the nano CP S has piro comp, and no the motor is not new, rather the connector and motor lead is new, requiring the new part number.

I hope that clear it up.

I apologize for not answering sooner, there are only a few of us on the Blade Product Development team, that take the time to get on Helifreak due to our busy schedules.

[JohnCC]

Originally Posted by SHYguy

Even the noob outside of HF will be disappointed when/if it dies after 10-20 flights...

I agree with you and Blade should consider this but I guess given the last response they did not or simply decided it wasn't important. This is one of the top reasons I did not buy this until I got my hands on a custom one JonJet put together with the MMW motor installed. I looked at it like this: I spent $80 on Nano QX and have had countless flights, since those motors last around 5-8 hours. Why spend $100 on something that will die in 20 flights? That is just around 80 min of flight time assuming 4 minutes for each flight... horrible value for the money.

[heli227]

Originally Posted by JohnCC

I agree with you and Blade should consider this but I guess given the last response they did not or simply decided it wasn't important. This is one of the top reasons I did not buy this until I got my hands on a custom one JonJet put together with the MMW motor installed. I looked at it like this: I spent $80 on Nano QX and have had countless flights, since those motors last around 5-8 hours. Why spend $100 on something that will die in 20 flights? That is just around 80 min of flight time assuming 4 minutes for each flight... horrible value for the money.

I don't know what the big deal about the motor is. There is a great replacement already available. https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=700717

[JonJet]

Originally Posted by heli227

I don't know what the big deal about the motor is. There is a great replacement already available. https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=700717

The MMW motor is not without it's issues

The best and most reliable option is still the brushless outrunner conversion

[SamCSx]

Originally Posted by JonJet

The best and most reliable option is still the brushless outrunner conversion

Doesn't it reduce the already very short flight times even further?

[JonJet]

Nope