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OICU812 · 01-13-2009, 02:31 AM

I got some neg expo in this little guy to help out but the roll rate even all cyclics maxed out is a tad slow. I am hoping Align will make some lighter paddles or play with the flybar ratio to speed it up abit. Hope I am not alone in my wish?

Roadrune · 01-13-2009, 05:09 AM

I'm on thin ice here, but wouldn't cutting them down a bit help? Or will it be worse since the missing steering response?
A longer flybar should help aswell.

Coolice · 01-13-2009, 08:23 AM

Hey,

You could lighten them out yourself by drilling some holes in the rear of the paddles, behind the threaded hole in which the flybar screws into. Then cover them in some thin heat shrink so they work in the air.
Of course try to make sure you leave enough material at the trailing edge to maintain the paddles integrity, also by doing so this way you will keep the centre of gravity forward, otherwise they will become very unstable in flight.

This was a trick used many years ago by fliers of the original Concept30 helicopter's who wanted faster cyclics.

Personally, with a set of 205D Carbon Blades on (some add a 16T pinion as well but I have not as yet) I would have said you would not need for a faster cyclic response :-)
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kimmy · 01-13-2009, 08:29 AM

I've noticed that too. I tried increasing the cyclic swash mix but it's still slow even to the point of binding. how about gaui paddles?

fireup · 01-13-2009, 11:49 AM

I'm planning on making myself one out of balsa, will see how it works.

Finless · 01-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Hmmm wonder if the Gaui 200 paddles would fit!

Bob

OICU812 · 01-13-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Finless

Hmmm wonder if the Gaui 200 paddles would fit!

Bob

Hmmm yea nice thought, I dunno I wish I still had some around to try though!!!

rickyg · 01-13-2009, 08:10 PM

I don't know about lighter paddles, but after putting on the carbon fiber blades (they are so shiny) the stock paddles don't look so hot.

Ricky

cbrian4 · 01-13-2009, 08:30 PM

Im sure microheli or Align will step up and make some carbon paddles in the very near future. For some reason microheli made a carbon fiber anti-rotation bracket. Who the heck would buy that? its 15 bucks too!

snjbird · 01-13-2009, 08:59 PM

Do you guys really think it needs them? I have my cyclic turned up to 80% and the thing flips and rolls like crazy?

Popsicle · 01-13-2009, 09:03 PM

The Gaui 200 paddles won't fit. The Align flybar is too thick to fit into the paddles.

I don't know what I'm doing differently from you all, but my cyclic agility is excellent with the stock setup. I do know that my cyclic was horribly slow until I put on CF blades and the 16t pinion..

Hoverup · 01-13-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rickyg

I don't know about lighter paddles, but after putting on the carbon fiber blades (they are so shiny) the stock paddles don't look so hot.

Ricky

Get the black magic marker out and cover them with color. They look less ugly and disappear when rotating.

cbrian4 · 01-13-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoverup

Get the black magic marker out and cover them with color. They look less ugly and disappear when rotating.

I did that to my esc, i hated the way that the yellow looked against the black carbon fiber lol!

OICU812 · 01-14-2009, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snjbird

Do you guys really think it needs them? I have my cyclic turned up to 80% and the thing flips and rolls like crazy?

Yes sir, well.... I do anyways. I got the 16 tooth pinion as well, and the cf 205D blades, and all cyclics maxed right out to bind in extremes on bench. We shall see, maybe they will make some,,,,, just maybe....

fireup · 01-14-2009, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

Yes sir, well.... I do anyways. I got the 16 tooth pinion as well, and the cf 205D blades, and all cyclics maxed right out to bind in extremes on bench. We shall see, maybe they will make some,,,,, just maybe....

Going with leading edge control also helps. specially with quicker stick to cyclic response time.

OICU812 · 01-14-2009, 02:21 AM

Any ill effects visible in flight in doing so Kevin???

fireup · 01-14-2009, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OICU812

Any ill effects visible in flight in doing so Kevin???

Nope, I think it flys better. (just make sure you rev. your swash pitch)

snjbird · 01-14-2009, 06:44 AM

I added these to make them look better

LoveMyTrex · 01-14-2009, 09:20 AM

but those stickers will slow them down even more.

I am not overjoyed with the cyclic response stock (15t+plastic blades) but 16t and 205d blades looks like the cyclic is great.

I am putting the 205 carbons (LHS was out of the D's) on and a spartan gyro. it should fly pretty well like that.

cb3d · 01-14-2009, 10:12 AM

Hey Kevin, it may just be the angle of the picture but it looks like there is some extreme stress on your canopy mounting bolts.

01-13-2009, 02:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
OICU812 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta	Align please make some lighter paddles for the 250 I got some neg expo in this little guy to help out but the roll rate even all cyclics maxed out is a tad slow. I am hoping Align will make some lighter paddles or play with the flybar ratio to speed it up abit. Hope I am not alone in my wish? __________________ ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars & frequency pins...Shawn

01-13-2009, 05:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Roadrune Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2008	I'm on thin ice here, but wouldn't cutting them down a bit help? Or will it be worse since the missing steering response? A longer flybar should help aswell. __________________ T-rex 600N, 8717, V-bar, 8900, YS50. MSH Protos, 3517, Mini V-Bar, 3500. JR DSX9 Rune

01-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
Coolice Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2004	Hey, You could lighten them out yourself by drilling some holes in the rear of the paddles, behind the threaded hole in which the flybar screws into. Then cover them in some thin heat shrink so they work in the air. Of course try to make sure you leave enough material at the trailing edge to maintain the paddles integrity, also by doing so this way you will keep the centre of gravity forward, otherwise they will become very unstable in flight. This was a trick used many years ago by fliers of the original Concept30 helicopter's who wanted faster cyclics. Personally, with a set of 205D Carbon Blades on (some add a 16T pinion as well but I have not as yet) I would have said you would not need for a faster cyclic response :-) . __________________ Ian Contessa Coolice Charge Cases & Power Supplies Facebook Page

01-13-2009, 11:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
fireup Team Taco CEO Join Date: Oct 2006	I'm planning on making myself one out of balsa, will see how it works. __________________ Kevin Don't Taco My Pack, Bro! , Why crash when you can POUND it!

01-13-2009, 04:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	Hmmm wonder if the Gaui 200 paddles would fit! Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

01-13-2009, 08:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
kimmy My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008	I've noticed that too. I tried increasing the cyclic swash mix but it's still slow even to the point of binding. how about gaui paddles?

01-13-2009, 08:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
rickyg Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2008	I don't know about lighter paddles, but after putting on the carbon fiber blades (they are so shiny) the stock paddles don't look so hot. Ricky

01-13-2009, 08:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
cbrian4 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2008	Im sure microheli or Align will step up and make some carbon paddles in the very near future. For some reason microheli made a carbon fiber anti-rotation bracket. Who the heck would buy that? its 15 bucks too!

01-13-2009, 08:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
snjbird Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008	Do you guys really think it needs them? I have my cyclic turned up to 80% and the thing flips and rolls like crazy? __________________ No Plankers were injured in the making of this post! TOY BOX contents Mcp x, 450 Pro VBar, 500 VBar, 12S 600CF VBar... Mikado Logo 6003D VBar Proudly flying KBDD, MKS, Castle, Scorpion and some planks too

01-13-2009, 09:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Popsicle Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2008	The Gaui 200 paddles won't fit. The Align flybar is too thick to fit into the paddles. I don't know what I'm doing differently from you all, but my cyclic agility is excellent with the stock setup. I do know that my cyclic was horribly slow until I put on CF blades and the 16t pinion..

01-14-2009, 02:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
OICU812 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta	Any ill effects visible in flight in doing so Kevin??? __________________ ...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars & frequency pins...Shawn

01-14-2009, 06:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
snjbird Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2008	I added these to make them look better __________________ No Plankers were injured in the making of this post! TOY BOX contents Mcp x, 450 Pro VBar, 500 VBar, 12S 600CF VBar... Mikado Logo 6003D VBar Proudly flying KBDD, MKS, Castle, Scorpion and some planks too

01-14-2009, 09:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
LoveMyTrex Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007	but those stickers will slow them down even more. I am not overjoyed with the cyclic response stock (15t+plastic blades) but 16t and 205d blades looks like the cyclic is great. I am putting the 205 carbons (LHS was out of the D's) on and a spartan gyro. it should fly pretty well like that. __________________ 600N 8917HV's spartan 760/8900G OS 55HZ/hatori SAB-55 AR7100r switchglow 700N 8717HV's spartan 760/8900G OS 91HZ/hatori SB-20 AR7100r switchglow, 690 slick V2 V's 90SG 8717HVs spartan 760/8900G OS 91HZ/hatori SB-20 AR7100r switchglow, 710 slick V2 V's

01-14-2009, 10:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
cb3d Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Roy, Utah	Hey Kevin, it may just be the angle of the picture but it looks like there is some extreme stress on your canopy mounting bolts. __________________ Align Trex 550X, Align Trex 600 Nitro Pro, Blade 230S Spektrum NX8

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