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Skyranger · 02-08-2011, 06:20 PM

I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this ? If so you know we do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave....

Suburban92 · 02-08-2011, 06:24 PM

they sell LOTS of tail motors though

P.I.Engineer · 02-08-2011, 06:37 PM

i had an msr with 200 flights on the original tail motor. I heat shrinked it from day one

antmeeks · 02-08-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyranger

I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this ? If so you know we do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave....

Please only speak for yourself, umkay?

toys2cars2toys · 02-08-2011, 06:49 PM

IMO 120SR and below are fine with the tail motor's that they have

I had an SR and still feel that if they had developed a suitable brushless tail motor, with similar performance to the brushed motor, but with better reliability, then that would have met the "beginners CP heli" design criteria
I found the SR good for me as a CP newbie and was happy not to bother about belt & tail whilst I was learning about the head setup
I didn't have a tail fail on me, but it was at back of my mind, so after about 15 flights, I swapped to my own brushless tail - which was a pain to do on the cheap

richmurphy83 · 02-08-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jrod155

i had an msr with 200 flights on the original tail motor. I heat shrinked it from day one

I agree, I have a MSR with too many flights to count and have crashed it almost as many times and have never had a problem with the tail motor and it is not even modified. You watch the next time I fly it will blow up

Mojappa · 02-08-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban92

they sell LOTS of tail motors though

Twinsen · 02-08-2011, 10:49 PM

It'd be impossible to do anything but tail motor on the MCP X.

Mojappa · 02-08-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinsen

It'd be impractical to do anything but tail motor on the MCP X.

Fixed.

Twinsen · 02-08-2011, 11:36 PM

Ok, I guess.

It would be impractical to order a pizza with "helicopter" as a topping.

Rotorbroke · 02-09-2011, 05:57 AM

I'll take 2, Large, FBL and brushless please???? For delivery, and no I can't hold, it's a pizza emergency....

ElIntocable · 02-09-2011, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyranger

I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this? If so you know I do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave....

Fixed.

Seriously, a tail motor is the most practical option. A belt that small would be a major PITA to repair/tune and would suffer from reliability issues. So would a TT, especially given the small gears. Durability would also suffer. It would probably be higher in price as well. A tail motor is inexpensive, "plug and play", and far more durable then a belt or TT tail.

Another point that just crossed my mind is size. A larger motor would have to be used (if it were to run a belt /TT), which would then increase weight. After all is said and done, you'd have a 250 sized bird. This would defeat the purpose of a truly micro 3D capable heli. E-Flite really hit the nail on the head with the mCP X. One thing that people seem to forget is that this heli is just a hair bigger than the mSR, AND, it's collectve pitch and flybarless!

Mojappa · 02-09-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ElIntocable

Fixed.

Seriously, a tail motor is the most practical option. A belt that small would be a major PITA to repair/tune and would suffer from reliability issues. So would a TT, especially given the small gears. Durability would also suffer. It would probably be higher in price as well. A tail motor is inexpensive, "plug and play", and far more durable then a belt or TT tail.

Another point that just crossed my mind is size. A larger motor would have to be used (if it were to run a belt /TT), which would then increase weight. After all is said and done, you'd have a 125(4g6) sized bird. This would defeat the purpose of a truly micro 3D capable heli. E-Flite really hit the nail on the head with the mCP X. One thing that people seem to forget is that this heli is just a hair bigger than the mSR, AND, it's collectve pitch and flybarless!

Fixed.

antmeeks · 02-09-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinsen

Ok, I guess.

It would be impractical to order a pizza with "helicopter" as a topping.

No, that would just be redonkulous.

RoundWing · 02-09-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyranger

I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this ? If so you know we do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave....

A belt drive requires a support tube to keep tension on the belt and apparently that isn't feasible for a micro due to weight and balance considerations. Even Align uses a tail motor on its new 100 micro.

Reminds me of the lines in a Robert Palmer song...

Old man sees a young boy cry,
Old man stops and asks him why....
"I can't do what the big boys do."
Old man sat down and he cried too...

If you expect a micro mCPx to perform exactly like a larger belt or TT CP you will be disappointed and whine about it. But if you approach owning a mCPx as a huge improvement over the mSR you'll be a happier camper.

chipbutty · 02-09-2011, 08:56 AM

In a heli of this size there is really no other option than to use a tail motor. I have a Gaui EP100 which is tiny but substantially bigger than this new Eflite heli and the belt is an absolute pain. They're just not practical on something as tiny as the mcpx.

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Originally Posted by Skyranger

I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this ? If so you know we do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave....

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Jskrapper · 02-09-2011, 09:00 AM

I HATE threads like this.

Thanks HH for making this heli. Tail motor and all. 1.5 oz anyone?

Mojappa · 02-09-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jskrapper

I HATE threads like this.

Thanks HH for making this heli. Tail motor and all. 1.5 oz anyone?

You could always refrain from clicking on it then.

Jskrapper · 02-09-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojappa

You could always refrain from clicking on it then.

Title was not descriptive to content...

I do understand the OP and I wasn't trying to be rude. My first micro CP was the novus cp and the electric tail was garbage so I see where he is coming from. The sheer small size of this will hopefully make the tail motor work ok.

Mojappa · 02-09-2011, 09:21 AM

I agree, but the grounds for disliking tail motors has undeniably been laid by previous Blade models so the reputation of them precedes them. I feel like, similar to the MSR, it will function alright but will also have it's quirks. Time will tell......

02-08-2011, 06:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Skyranger Registered Users Join Date: May 2009	Post to Horizon Hobby I think we all love your products.. Do you guys read this ? If so you know we do NOT like tail motors...Double your sales with belt drive helis...Dave.... __________________ Boneyard: MCX s300, CX3, P-51, B450, MSR, SR, 120SR, HZ Super Cub / Airport: HDX500,PK Stinson Reliant with flaps, E-Flite Mini Pulse, DX6i dsmx... MIP toolsPhoenix sim.. AMA license # 975063

02-08-2011, 06:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Suburban92 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010	they sell LOTS of tail motors though __________________ RAPTOR 50 AND A RAPTOR TITAN X50 BLADE 180QX AND A BLADE 130S

02-08-2011, 06:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
P.I.Engineer Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maple Valley'ish, WA	i had an msr with 200 flights on the original tail motor. I heat shrinked it from day one __________________ XLPower Specter V2 - Rotorflight - ELRS OMP M2 Explore - Rotorflight - ELRS TX: Fr-Sky X9 Lite S / RM Pocket - EdgeTX - ELRS

02-09-2011, 05:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rotorbroke Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2009	I'll take 2, Large, FBL and brushless please???? For delivery, and no I can't hold, it's a pizza emergency.... __________________ Yes, your battery has enough for one more go round and the sun is just high enough. fly like there is no tomorrow!! Last edited by Rotorbroke; 02-09-2011 at 05:59 AM.. Reason: forgot delivery or pick-up..... :-)

02-09-2011, 09:00 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jskrapper Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009	I HATE threads like this. Thanks HH for making this heli. Tail motor and all. 1.5 oz anyone? __________________ -Joe "Helis - wallet weight reduction made easy" HeliArt Jskrapper @ youtube

02-08-2011, 06:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
toys2cars2toys Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2009	IMO 120SR and below are fine with the tail motor's that they have I had an SR and still feel that if they had developed a suitable brushless tail motor, with similar performance to the brushed motor, but with better reliability, then that would have met the "beginners CP heli" design criteria I found the SR good for me as a CP newbie and was happy not to bother about belt & tail whilst I was learning about the head setup I didn't have a tail fail on me, but it was at back of my mind, so after about 15 flights, I swapped to my own brushless tail - which was a pain to do on the cheap

02-08-2011, 10:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Twinsen Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	It'd be impossible to do anything but tail motor on the MCP X.

02-08-2011, 11:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Twinsen Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	Ok, I guess. It would be *impractical* to order a pizza with "helicopter" as a topping.

02-09-2011, 09:21 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mojappa Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2009	I agree, but the grounds for disliking tail motors has undeniably been laid by previous Blade models so the reputation of them precedes them. I feel like, similar to the MSR, it will function alright but will also have it's quirks. Time will tell...... __________________ THIS IS MY SIGNATURE. THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE.

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