extreme vrs transmitter mode?

[iheliflyer]

What would extreme setting be if I was to set the heli to fly the same in transmitter mode? Am I better off using transmitter mode or is extreme good for fast 3d flights? I'm familiar with skookum and vbar setting. My first ar7200bx.so not too sure

[Skidpad]

Its entirely personal preference, but I think the vast majority on here would suggest using transmitter mode, as it allows you complete tuning freedom via d/r, endpoints, expo, etc. If you are already familiar with SK and vbar, then I feel there's little point in trying the pre-programmed modes other than to experiment to see how they feel.

Again, it's personal preference, but to me, the default BX settings are very slow, so I have mine cranked way up via endpoints, etc, and she's definitely snappy

[iheliflyer]

Ok. I'm using the ar7200 on a chase 360. If I use transmitter mode should I start with 100% all around? Aileron and elevator roll speed is by increasing travel % ,right? Increasing rudder affect piro speed? What would increasing pitch do?

[Skidpad]

Yes, start with 100% all around to get a feel for it, then you can tune to your liking via d/r and/or endpoints. Endpoints are a global setting and affect all modes, whereas d/r are switchable at will.

I use a combination of both, but as a reference my endpoints are 122 ail/elev on 100% d/r; you'll find it starts to wake up around 110 endpoints.

Yes, increasing rudder endpoints effects piro speed, but I'd leave pitch alone... You can enable pitch boost in the parameter menu if you want more pop.

Take it slow and experiment with what works best...baby steps...it *will* get faster for you.

[carlytorres]

I haven't tried expert yet . im using the one before i think is pro and works well on the 550. I will probably try expert soon . I ll let you know

[Dylan Hudock]

Im using the extreme mode, but upped the cyclic and tail endpoints by 10. I really like the way it feels, but might switch to transmitter to just try it out.

[andoy]

Just for clarification, what do you guys mean by endpoints? In Tx mode the only parameters I adjusted are DR's and expos... What will endpoints do?

[gunner007]

Heya Andoy,
Endpoint adjustment..It just sets how far said servo will travel. If you go from 100% to 110% you will get more throw. You can pick up an extra 1-2 degrees of pitch for example....You can have binding problems if you set it too high.

[Skidpad]

Originally Posted by gunner007

Heya Andoy,
Endpoint adjustment..It just sets how far said servo will travel. If you go from 100% to 110% you will get more throw. You can pick up an extra 1-2 degrees of pitch for example....You can have binding problems if you set it too high.

Although this is true in the flybar'd world, this isn't true with fbl.

Fbl physical deflection limits are set in the unit itself during setup, and these are the maximum limits the unit will not exceed during flight.

The endpoints are used to specify/adjust a *rate* of angular rotation during flight, and never exceed the physical limits established during setup. You can use endpoints to adjust how responsive your heli is via transmitter mode without worrying about physical limits because it doesn't directly affect servo travel limits....only the rate of rotation commanded by the fbl unit.

[andoy]

OK so when endpoint adjustment is paired with dual rate adjustment essentially you get more responsiveness from the model correct?

[Skidpad]

You can get more responsiveness using both/either. The difference is that d/r are switchable at will and therefore can be enabled or switched any time regardless of flight mode, headspeed, etc. Endpoints are a global setting and aren't switchable during flight so they impact all flight modes regardless of headspeed, etc.

You can use both to achieve a variety of flying characteristics, but one must understand how the functions overlap before doing so.

Regardless, using Transmitter mode is the best way to get the most of of the BX units. For the helis I've flown so far - and my slow thumbs - I've found the default rotations rates at 100% d/r or endpoints to be too slow for my liking, so I usually up my endpoints to achieve the feel that I want, and soften center stick with varying levels of expo depending on the model. I typically don't do much with d/r, but I am experimenting with some switchable lesser rates to offset my endpoints for at-will precision/stationary flying.

It's all choice, man

[andoy]

perfect! thanks for the explanation... I've been having troubles with my 570 as I think the aileron and elevator rates are too slow for my liking. I have my DR's maxed out at 125 and adding a few more ticks on the endpoints may increase the rates more to suit my needs. Thanks.