Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect
START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > 600 Class Electric Helicopters


600 Class Electric Helicopters 600 Class Electric Helicopters manufactured by Align, Tarot, SYMA, Airhog, Chaos, HK and similar.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2009, 07:41 PM   #41
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

Here's where i placed my CC85HV....
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 12:25 PM   #42
NRPY
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California, USA
Default

Does it get enough airflow inside the frame like that? I guess the answer is yes, but I'm using the stock Align 100A ESC, so I am concerned about cooling.

I agree mounting inside the frame is ideal from an asthetics POV.
NRPY is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 12:52 PM   #43
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

I have a 3 fan cooling system mounted internally. 1 on the motor, 1 on the ESC and 1 one the BEC so heat is no problem for me.

nightflyr
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 01:10 PM   #44
NRPY
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California, USA
Default

Oooh . . . cooling fans. Never thought about that. How are they powered?
NRPY is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 07:43 PM   #45
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

My lighting and cooling systems have there own flight battery so not to draw from my flight packs

nightflyr
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 11:27 PM   #46
Scottyb410
Registered Users
 
Posts: 888
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Default

Could you post a few picks of the fan positioning please?

Thanks,

Scotty
__________________
Goblin 700 KDE700XF-535, Vbar NEO 6.1, BL9180 9188, Kosmik Cool 160 Goblin 630 HK 4525-520, Vbar NEO 6.1, BL9180 9188, Jive Pro 120 Goblin 380 Xnova 3215-930, Vbar NEO 6.1, DS-3001HV, DS5005HV, Koby 90
Scottyb410 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2009, 12:37 AM   #47
NRPY
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California, USA
Default

One thing ESP builders should note:

The bell cranks on the ESP model are 180 degrees opposite to those in Finless Bob's video, so his guidance on servo directions is therefore 180 degrees opposite too.
NRPY is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2009, 03:53 AM   #48
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NRPY View Post
One thing ESP builders should note:

The bell cranks on the ESP model are 180 degrees opposite to those in Finless Bob's video, so his guidance on servo directions is therefore 180 degrees opposite too.
Please be aware that Finless hasn't not done a 600 ESP build as of yet, the Video is the build of a 600 CF version.
For a full explanation on the setupof the bell cranks, servo linkages ETC please refer to post #26 in FAQ
nightflyr
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2009, 12:14 PM   #49
NRPY
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California, USA
Default

nightflyr,
How much does that cooling setup add to your "all up" weight? Do you have CG balance issues with all your batteries up front? I'm really liking your layout.
NRPY is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2009, 12:55 PM   #50
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

My lift off weight is 12.17 lbs, CG is dead nuts on. the cooling system weighs next to nothing neither does the lighting system.. the 3S1P battery that powers it helps to balance the heli

nightflyr
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 06:14 PM   #51
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default Tail Improvement By Halley



My HF Map location
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Central Connecticut, USA


A "tail safe" for the T Rex 600
I fly at a grass field and constantly worry about damaging the tail blades or the torque tube gears when the tail bumps the ground. Cracking the tail fin itself is also something I worry about.

So I replaced the 600 ESP stock fin with a 700 fin, which is made of thicker CF and has a longer tip so it will hit the ground earlier. Unfortunately, the point is also sharper, so I wanted to reduce the chance that it will snag on the grass or furrow into the soil dangerously. I've seen some balls on carbon rods, but I dug through my spares bin and worked out this easy solution.

__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 08:25 PM   #52
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default Making a 600ESP 3rd bearing block

Not sure if this has been done or not.... but it works..

I installed a 3rd bearing block into my ESP problem was is that it is a match for the upper blocks 19mm X 10mm X 5mm, the lower bearing being 17mm X 9mm X 5mm posed a problem. being that it was not going to fit correctly.

simple solution was to dismantle the 19 X 10 X 5 bearing take the outer casing and machine the ball bearing track down till it slid over the 17 X 9 X 5 bearing as a spacer sleeve.

just pop it into the block mount and bingo all good in the world!!

__________________
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 06:52 PM   #53
blindpilot
Registered Users
 
Posts: 543
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Winston Salem
Default trex 600 esp queston

I am setting up a 600 esp and was wanting to know about the servo arm that is on the inside of the frame the one that contrals the swash in the front of the helicopter. it rides on the bell crank with a set screw how do you set that up do you tighen the screw when the arm is level or what
blindpilot is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 02:33 AM   #54
kaon
Registered Users
 
Posts: 106
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blindpilot View Post
I am setting up a 600 esp and was wanting to know about the servo arm that is on the inside of the frame the one that contrals the swash in the front of the helicopter. it rides on the bell crank with a set screw how do you set that up do you tighen the screw when the arm is level or what
The set screw can be tightened down anywhere on the shaft, doesn't have a flat right?
If it has a flat, then tighten it onto the flat. Otherwise, you should find that it doesn't matter.
What we want is for the push-pulls to be equal and not too long and not too short, and squared up when the servo is centered. I see no harm in using some subtrim.

For the left and right side cyclic push pulls, it is easier to sight along the holes of the Align servo wheels to get the push-pulls squared up.
kaon is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 03:38 AM   #55
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default Servo / Bell crank setup

Any questions concerning this ...Refer to posting #26

nightflyr
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 12:24 AM   #56
HeLiJerSey
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Default

nightflyer..if your from long island...i will come to your house and pay you, i live 10 min from nyc..i just bought a 600 ESP...anyways excellant job!!
HeLiJerSey is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:09 PM   #57
Shef
Registered Users
 
Posts: 3,679
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Manhattan (NYC)
Default

edit
__________________
Former owner of T-Rex: 250, 450 V2, 500ESP V-Bar, 550 DFC 3GX, 600ESP V-Bar, 700E 3G
Shef is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 01:38 AM   #58
Vinger
Registered Users
 
Posts: 8,458
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nightflyr View Post
Not sure if this has been done or not.... but it works..

I installed a 3rd bearing block into my ESP problem was is that it is a match for the upper blocks 19mm X 10mm X 5mm, the lower bearing being 17mm X 9mm X 5mm posed a problem. being that it was not going to fit correctly.

simple solution was to dismantle the 19 X 10 X 5 bearing take the outer casing and machine the ball bearing track down till it slid over the 17 X 9 X 5 bearing as a spacer sleeve.

just pop it into the block mount and bingo all good in the world!!

__________________
Just buy a 19 X 9 x 5 bearing and all is well. Or you can use the stock 600E/N parts for the bottom bearing block.
__________________
Gaui R5, Henseleit TDR +TDR2, Banshee
Kontronik ESC, iChargers, VBar, VControl, JR XG11
Old hand at Planks
Vinger is online now        Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 04:29 AM   #59
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinger View Post
Just buy a 19 X 9 x 5 bearing and all is well. Or you can use the stock 600E/N parts for the bottom bearing block.
At last inquiry BOCA does not have a yellow sealed no lube bearing in that size configuration available.

Also I don't know if a N is a metal block, E version I researched was a plastic assembly I assume it is not and prefer the metal over plastic, plus had the parts on hand.

nightflyr
__________________


Last edited by nightflyr; 09-25-2009 at 05:51 AM..
nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 11:06 PM   #60
nightflyr
Registered Users
 
Posts: 17,059
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island, NY AMA#972083 FAA#FA397AT9NF
Default keep those TT bearings guys!

EatMorePizza




Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NY


keep those TT bearings guys!
Im not sure if anyone posted this yet, but the bearing on the TT is the same as the bearings in the main grips.
I just cut the tube sanded the cut smooth and popped off the bearing. Simple.
__________________
20% of the world suffer from constipation, the other 80% don't give a S#!t.
__________________

nightflyr is offline        Reply With Quote
Reply




Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopter Support > 600 Class Electric Helicopters


600 Class Electric Helicopters 600 Class Electric Helicopters manufactured by Align, Tarot, SYMA, Airhog, Chaos, HK and similar.

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Copyright © 2004-2016 by RCGroups.com, LLC except where otherwise indicated. The HeliFreak.com logo is a trademark of RCGroups.com, LLC.