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Old 12-13-2007, 07:51 PM   #1
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Default Graphic 430 motor bearing replacement

Materials and tools
1.NEW R2-5ZZ Bearing *2
2. screw lock adhisive
3. Homemade wrench set.
4. bended main spindle of 450
5. Toothpicks 1
6. Hammer .
7. table pliers
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:05 PM   #2
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I like the idea of your homemade wrench set.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:25 PM   #3
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Nice job iceman33.

I just wanted to throw in for those looking for bearing if you have a hard time finding them as RZ-522, that they are non metric, or standard, 1/8 x 5/16 x 5/32" which if you just have to spec them in metric is 7.93 x 3.17 x 3.57mm

You should be able to get them at any bearing supply or Boca has them.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:57 PM   #4
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go on.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:26 AM   #5
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COOL. I have a locked up 430L I would like to take apart, but I had no idea how to get it apart.

Time to make some tools.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:42 PM   #6
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Got my motor fixed. A few things:

I used a piece of 2" metal strap with holes I had laying around (Home Depot). It had been cut off at one end across the edge of one of the holes. This worked great for the shaft end.

4mm socket head machine screw heads fit the motor holes perfectly.

The holes for the machine screws should be 18mm apart on the tools.

Now only one end comes off. On mine it was the shaft exit end, but this was enough for me.

Pulling my motor apart I would a washer inside. This was what locked it up. I think I may have dropped it in during the build. If so I got something like 60 or so flights before it locked up.

So now I have a spare motor.
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:29 PM   #7
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This is GREAT INFO! Thank you.... If you all agree I want to STICK this post....

You all agree it's worthy?

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Old 12-16-2007, 11:45 PM   #8
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:04 AM   #9
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This is GREAT INFO! Thank you.... If you all agree I want to STICK this post....

You all agree it's worthy?

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there are some photo need edit.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:18 AM   #10
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yeah defo worth a sticky Finless, very useful!
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:37 PM   #11
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I like it! Sticky!

First time I have seen the inside of an align motor!

I'm still rocking my 430L!
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:57 PM   #12
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:06 PM   #13
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:08 AM   #15
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:53 AM   #16
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Salute !!! seems I can try on my Align 600L and update my blog
http://drtungym.blogspot.com/2008/01...brushless.html
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:02 PM   #17
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What have people used for adhesive during reassembly?
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:54 AM   #18
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I used nothing as it took the tools to put it back together. You could use some blue Loctite.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:54 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by outhouse
i just got the align rce-bl35x for the -8 and hope it works fine. ive seen one of the pros using the align 35 so what the heck

Outhouse,
I have that exact set up with No Braking, High Timing, Mid Batt. cut off, Heli 2 mode w/ Soft start/ Gov mode, and lastly with Quick Throttle response. I was just wondering what head speed your getting. Cause I have 2221-8 v1 w/ 13T and with my last ESC the Align BL35G which gave me 3200 HS easy at 100% but I have noticed that when I hit idle up 1 or even 2 I could usual hear it jump up and the head speed would really jump to 3200 but with this "New" BL35X (6v) ESC it will only hit 3000 HS tops and it would not jump at all or increase at all when I hit Idle up hear are my TC's
Flight Mode - 0,INH,80,INH,100
Idle Up 1 - 100,INH,90,INH,100
Idle Up 2 - 100,100,100,100,100
I have the DX-7 radio and I didn't know if you or anyone would know what to do to get my HS back up to normal with Gov mode if that's possible
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:27 AM   #20
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I used nothing as it took the tools to put it back together. You could use some blue Loctite.
IDK so correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't locktight just liquify from the heat the motor makes? Maybe CA instead? BTW what happens if you do touch the coils...with like a screw or something? Is there a way to fix it then?

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