Normal throttle mode

[jmurray74]

Set to a flat curve 30,30,30,30,30( th to cut on off) will it then fly inverted with negative pitch as the iu1 flat 70 and u2 flat 100.
To windy here to try.
Jim

[gryzor]

Yup. Dont forget to change your pitch curve to match your other idle up curves. I would also recommend a second throttle hold or throttle cut switch incase your primary TH switch fails.

[salrica]

Originally Posted by jmurray74

Set to a flat curve 30,30,30,30,30( th to cut on off) will it then fly inverted with negative pitch as the iu1 flat 70 and u2 flat 100.
To windy here to try.
Jim

I would suggest that you post your pitch curves as well before attempting to go inverted.
Been windy there in Mebane too?
Hopefully will get a break to fly this weekend

[jmurray74]

I am using 0 25 50 75 100 on all modes.
Thanks
Jim

[Allan114]

Originally Posted by jmurray74

I am using 0 25 50 75 100 on all modes.
Thanks
Jim

Jim,

This ESC does not work like the ones in the other Blade helis like the MCPBL or 130X. It is not proportional and has 3 speeds built into it which is what confuses a number of people. The lowest head speed is obtained with around 25-30% throttle. On some Tx's you can get a second speed at 70% and the top speed at 100%. That is why HH recommend a 0-25-25-25 for normal mode and (on my Tx DX6i) Stunt mode of a flat 100% throttle curve.

[FR4-Pilot]

Originally Posted by jmurray74

I am using 0 25 50 75 100 on all modes.
Thanks
Jim

Originally Posted by Allan114

Jim,

This ESC does not work like the ones in the other Blade helis like the MCPBL or 130X. It is not proportional and has 3 speeds built into it which is what confuses a number of people. The lowest head speed is obtained with around 25-30% throttle. On some Tx's you can get a second speed at 70% and the top speed at 100%. That is why HH recommend a 0-25-25-25 for normal mode and (on my Tx DX6i) Stunt mode of a flat 100% throttle curve.

I think what jmurray47 posted was his pitch curve, even though the title of his post says throttle curve. If 0-25-50-75-100 was his throttle curve we'd be having a totally different discussion by now

Actually, the ESC is fully proportional like other ESCs - you just have to change a few settings with CastleLink.

-John

[salrica]

Not much info if that is pitch or throttle curves.
Assuming is pitch curve, 0-25-50-75-100
I would check that you have 0° at mid stick and equal blade pitch at low and high stick.
I would not try to flip the heli having 30℅ on throttle, switch to idle one, 70%, and flip it.

[Len Todd]

At least for me, 30% is too slow for flipping. Also, ...

If you have a 0,30,30,30,30 normal throttle curve and pull the throttle all the way back, it will drop like a rock because when you get below 30 it shuts off the motor immediately and it will not spool up quick enough to fly. Just about the time you hit the ground from ~10', it starts to re-spool. You can count on replacing the landing gear, torque tube, boom, and boom supports & maybe even a TT pinion and main gear. Been there.

I suggest either dropping the 0 in the normal mode and using the TH switch for On/Off, or immediately get into IU1 or IU2 after lift off & landing in IU1. Of course, this makes Normal rather useless when you can use a TH switch for on and off and use the Normal mode (with 30,30,30,30,30) as a nice tame mode to fly around in w/o the danger of dropping like a rock!.

As far as changing ESC settings to stop it from dropping like a rock and spooling back up in a timely manner, I would like someone to post the exact settings that precludes the drop and slow re-spool. I have spend days froggin' around with the settings and talked with HH Techs. I have not seen this BAD feature of this ESC eliminated yet, w/o changing out the ESC. For the average sport flyer, this is a crappy copter. By far the worst of 6 copters that I have.

[FR4-Pilot]

If you're flipping the heli or attempting inverted in "Normal" mode then you should not have a 0-30-30-30-30 throttle curve.

You should have a 30-30-30-30-30 throttle curve and be using throttle hold (0-0-0-0-0) to start/stop the heli.

Your "Normal" pitch curve should then be 0-25-50-75-100.

If you want 0 to be your first throttle position, but don't like the abrupt change when you get to 30 then you should turn off the governor and enable fixed endpoints mode (fully proportional mode). Then you can set whatever throttle curve you like ... 0-40-75-90-100 (example) and you will have smooth operation between 0 and 40. My blog explains how to do this.

Don't get caught up in the "Normal" vs. "Stunt" vs."IdleUp1, IdleUp2" descriptions ... they're just user-configurable flight modes that can be set to whatever you like. Instead think "Flight Mode 1", "Flight Mode 2", etc.

-John