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06-23-2015, 06:50 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Increase Roll Rate/Cyclic Response
I'm flying my first full-size heli, a Blade 550X and built it using the V-Bar. I love the way it flies, except for when I'm doing flips and rolls it seems to do them a little slower than I would like. Compared to flying a Blade 550X or Goblin 700 on Phoenix RC with intermediate/default settings, the sim heli's roll and flip a lot faster when I throw the cyclic stick 100% in any direction. I am using 100% rates on idle up 2 with 2300 headspeed (V-Bar Gov). On the cyclic tab in setup, I calculated a gain of 94 to reach 8 degrees as instructed in the software. I have Style=85, Agility=80, and Gyro Gain=80 on the Main Rotor main screen settings.
I'm confused about which of these settings I should try tweaking to get better cyclic response or what other things I can try to get this bird to flip and roll faster. |
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06-23-2015, 08:17 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Turn the agility slider up. Try 90 and 100 and then from 100 I tend to increase mine by 2 or 3 points at a time until I'm happy
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06-23-2015, 09:02 PM | #3 (permalink) | |
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Swash Agility This parameter adjusts the overall roll and tumble rate of your helicopter. Higher values increase rates, lower values decrease rates. Version starting at 5.0 have an integrated optimizer to automatically equalize the roll and tumble rates (therefore separate Elevator/Aileron sliders are unnecessary). If you need to fine tune the individual rates you will need to adjust the end point for the Aileron/Elevator channels in your Transmitter. Swash Gain This parameter adjusts the gain of the aileron and elevator gyros. Higher values result in tighter crisper feeling cyclics. Too high a value will result in oscillations after stick inputs. Flight Style The more the value is moved up, the more the heli behaves robotic. The more it is moved down, the more it gets vivid
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06-24-2015, 10:40 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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My agility usually ends up around 110.
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06-24-2015, 09:26 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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5 VBars over 3 years, and I still don't understand the "vivid" vs "robotic" thing.
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06-24-2015, 11:32 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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I always thought it was a type of decay separate from ordinary PID gains and rates.
Robotic - pop and lock, very little decay from commanded position Vivid - more "alive" and "flowey", some slow decay from commanded position, much like how flybarred helis used to fly. At least that's how I always thought of it...
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