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songer121 · 08-01-2013, 09:34 AM

T REX 450L DOMINATOR Test Flight 1 (3 min 50 sec)

enjoy!

dwdw910 · 08-01-2013, 09:43 AM

AWESOME video.... thanks man.

I've seen a lot of these demo videos and though Kenny is (IMO) the prodigy of 3D flight- that was the fastest helicopter I've ever seen.

I especially noted the 360 blades, 460mx motor for a positive.

And the negative was the ungoverned HS- which probably means the same Align ESC.
And the DS 415 servos. Which I think have too much play in the gears.

But an otherwise stellar bird that will no doubt be the next big thing.

WoW

Shawn Behrens · 08-01-2013, 11:27 AM

3600 RPM on a 360mm blade is very very fast. I sure hope the tail gear ratio is not designed around people flying with headspeeds like that.

P.I.Engineer · 08-01-2013, 05:50 PM

seems like a perfect heli to come with the new mini talon esc from castle.

Funky · 08-01-2013, 06:30 PM

I hope they offer different tail ratios. I would really appreciate some options. High rpms are fun, but cause a lot of wear and damage compared to lower headspeeds. A 450 can do plenty of hard 3d at 3000 and lower.

copterboy · 08-01-2013, 06:57 PM

Watching with interest!!

Kap'n Krunch · 08-01-2013, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwdw910

AWESOME video.... thanks man.

I've seen a lot of these demo videos and though Kenny is (IMO) the prodigy of 3D flight- that was the fastest helicopter I've ever seen.

I especially noted the 360 blades, 460mx motor for a positive.

And the negative was the ungoverned HS- which probably means the same Align ESC.
And the DS 415 servos. Which I think have too much play in the gears.

But an otherwise stellar bird that will no doubt be the next big thing.

WoW

whats wrong with ungoverned ? when you putting down the smack down like that. its my preference for the 450 is to fly it ungoverned

dwdw910 · 08-02-2013, 12:15 AM

Nothing is wrong with ungoverned. My Pro is a flat 90.

I was referring to the Align ESC and its horrendous governor mode.

I was hoping that Align would include the new Talon ESC. I don't think its going to happen.

Trexwilly · 08-02-2013, 04:36 AM

The video showed an Align 45 amp ESC, didn't make any mention to what features it would have. I just took it they were choosing to run it flat out(no governor)

I sure hope they didn't mess with the tail gear ratio, or if they did it will be an easy mod to go back to what we have now?

songer121 · 08-02-2013, 09:19 AM

i just look at it as they ARE align and they do know what their doing so whatever they release im sure will be top notch as pretty much all of the recent helis are... looks sweet to me.

mickeyjohnston · 08-02-2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justwired

whats wrong with ungoverned ? when you putting down the smack down like that. its my preference for the 450 is to fly it ungoverned

I agree. I never like a governor on my 450. Secondly, people are making it sound like 3600 head speed is unreal for 360 blades, personally I don't think it's all that high for todays standards.

I love that it has a bigger (opps better) tail servo.

Can't wait for it to be released.

Funky · 08-02-2013, 12:23 PM

525 is still a mid size servo. Same size tail servo as the 450 pro/v2/dfc etc.

Also, I don't think 3600 is too fast, I would just like the option of running a lower headspeed and still have good tail authority. I use my 450s as practice helis so they crash a lot. Crashing with high headspeeds causes more damage so I would like options for running lower headspeeds.... 3000 can still get the job done very well. Although high headspeeds are fun and I love ripping up the sky as much as anyone, the majority of people I know from our club (and many others) would not benefit from running super high headspeeds.

Chep · 08-02-2013, 12:56 PM

That's a great heli in my book. Gotta give Align credit for improving quality. Haters will have fun tearing this new guy apart,but who really cares? 450 size helis do better without governor. I'm ready to add this baby to my fleet. Bring it on, Align!

RedOctobyr · 08-02-2013, 06:40 PM

Curious why you guys don't like governors on a 450? I changed my 450 Pro from a basic ESC to my Ice Lite, then enabled its governor. I think it's great, I don't see any downsides. I get more consistent flights, with the same feel at the start of a pack, and the end.

Chris Wall · 08-02-2013, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedOctobyr

Curious why you guys don't like governors on a 450? I changed my 450 Pro from a basic ESC to my Ice Lite, then enabled its governor. I think it's great, I don't see any downsides. I get more consistent flights, with the same feel at the start of a pack, and the end.

+1

Trexwilly · 08-02-2013, 07:00 PM

tracernz · 08-02-2013, 09:25 PM

+3

While 3600 is at the upper end it's not crazy fast head speed.

Funky · 08-02-2013, 09:50 PM

I think it is personal preference on the gov issue. I don't like how govs fly on my electric helis, only my e7 & nitros run govs. I run my 450s, 550s and 600 all w/o gov.

ColinSouthern · 08-02-2013, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedOctobyr

Curious why you guys don't like governors on a 450? I changed my 450 Pro from a basic ESC to my Ice Lite, then enabled its governor. I think it's great, I don't see any downsides. I get more consistent flights, with the same feel at the start of a pack, and the end.

+4

I fly governed at 3000 or 3300RPM 100% of the time -- very consistent across a pack. Using a CC 50A ESC (due to a much bigger motor in my 450) now, but also tried the Align 35A version and didn't have any issues with it either.

ColinSouthern · 08-02-2013, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracernz

+3

While 3600 is at the upper end it's not crazy fast head speed.

Don't forget it's a significantly bigger blade than the standard 325mm one though.

08-01-2013, 09:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
dwdw910 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012	AWESOME video.... thanks man. I've seen a lot of these demo videos and though Kenny is (IMO) the prodigy of 3D flight- that was the fastest helicopter I've ever seen. I especially noted the 360 blades, 460mx motor for a positive. And the negative was the ungoverned HS- which probably means the same Align ESC. And the DS 415 servos. Which I think have too much play in the gears. But an otherwise stellar bird that will no doubt be the next big thing. WoW Last edited by dwdw910; 08-01-2013 at 10:45 AM..

08-01-2013, 05:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
P.I.Engineer Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maple Valley'ish, WA	seems like a perfect heli to come with the new mini talon esc from castle. __________________ XLPower Specter V2 - Rotorflight - ELRS OMP M2 Explore - Rotorflight - ELRS TX: Fr-Sky X9 Lite S / RM Pocket - EdgeTX - ELRS

08-01-2013, 06:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Funky Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	I hope they offer different tail ratios. I would really appreciate some options. High rpms are fun, but cause a lot of wear and damage compared to lower headspeeds. A 450 can do plenty of hard 3d at 3000 and lower. __________________ More helis than brains

08-01-2013, 06:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
copterboy Registered Users Join Date: May 2008	Watching with interest!! __________________ COPTERBOY DX6i, mSR (SOLD), BeltCP (SOLD), mCPx w solid boom and Rakon Heli Head T-Rex450V2 w.PRO head, Scorp-8 & 45A V2 ESC, CSM4200/S9257, 3xHS65MG E-Flite CX2 - All Microheli/Extreme CNC CF Upgrades TRex600N, Kasama Head, OS50SX

08-02-2013, 12:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
Funky Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	525 is still a mid size servo. Same size tail servo as the 450 pro/v2/dfc etc. Also, I don't think 3600 is too fast, I would just like the option of running a lower headspeed and still have good tail authority. I use my 450s as practice helis so they crash a lot. Crashing with high headspeeds causes more damage so I would like options for running lower headspeeds.... 3000 can still get the job done very well. Although high headspeeds are fun and I love ripping up the sky as much as anyone, the majority of people I know from our club (and many others) would not benefit from running super high headspeeds. __________________ More helis than brains

08-01-2013, 11:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Shawn Behrens Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2007	3600 RPM on a 360mm blade is very very fast. I sure hope the tail gear ratio is not designed around people flying with headspeeds like that.

08-02-2013, 12:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
dwdw910 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012	Nothing is wrong with ungoverned. My Pro is a flat 90. I was referring to the Align ESC and its horrendous governor mode. I was hoping that Align would include the new Talon ESC. I don't think its going to happen.

08-02-2013, 04:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Trexwilly Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2010	The video showed an Align 45 amp ESC, didn't make any mention to what features it would have. I just took it they were choosing to run it flat out(no governor) I sure hope they didn't mess with the tail gear ratio, or if they did it will be an easy mod to go back to what we have now?

08-02-2013, 09:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
songer121 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2012	i just look at it as they ARE align and they do know what their doing so whatever they release im sure will be top notch as pretty much all of the recent helis are... looks sweet to me.

08-02-2013, 12:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chep Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2012	That's a great heli in my book. Gotta give Align credit for improving quality. Haters will have fun tearing this new guy apart,but who really cares? 450 size helis do better without governor. I'm ready to add this baby to my fleet. Bring it on, Align! __________________ T-Rex 700 HV DFC, Logo 550SX, Logo 480Xx JR Forza 450, G380, OXY 285 I'm proud of my crashing skills!

08-02-2013, 06:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
RedOctobyr Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2011	Curious why you guys don't like governors on a 450? I changed my 450 Pro from a basic ESC to my Ice Lite, then enabled its governor. I think it's great, I don't see any downsides. I get more consistent flights, with the same feel at the start of a pack, and the end. __________________ Gaui X5, iKon, Edge 100, CC BEC Pro. Tarot 450 Pro FBL, Mini VBar, Ice Lite 50. BL mCP X, Nano QX, FrSky Taranis, iCharger 308Duo.

08-02-2013, 07:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
Trexwilly Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2010	+2

08-02-2013, 09:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
tracernz Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2012	+3 While 3600 is at the upper end it's not crazy fast head speed.

08-02-2013, 09:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Funky Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	I think it is personal preference on the gov issue. I don't like how govs fly on my electric helis, only my e7 & nitros run govs. I run my 450s, 550s and 600 all w/o gov. __________________ More helis than brains

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