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Old 06-17-2011, 10:43 PM   #1001 (permalink)
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You go, night! We "lowly peasants" will just wait until you post a "sticky" that has directions in plain language. As well, the price of this little gizmo "option" is more than the price of the bird I would think about putting it on. Still, it is cheaper than the DJI products.
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:35 PM   #1002 (permalink)
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That HC3sx unit is pretty small for all the features that are packed in it. It is going to look even smaller on that monster of a heli that you are putting it on night

Also, I don't know if you noticed or not but there are now over 1,000 posts in this thread that you started less than a year ago.
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:17 AM   #1003 (permalink)
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You go, night! We "lowly peasants" will just wait until you post a "sticky" that has directions in plain language. As well, the price of this little gizmo "option" is more than the price of the bird I would think about putting it on. Still, it is cheaper than the DJI products.
The truth be known...
I actually got this unit at 1/3 the going price... Did so horse trading with a friend of mine who won a HC3Xtreme at a FunFly and did a trade off.
The real cost was to ship it back to Captron in Germany and have it upgraded from Xtreme to SX.


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That HC3sx unit is pretty small for all the features that are packed in it. It is going to look even smaller on that monster of a heli that you are putting it on night

Also, I don't know if you noticed or not but there are now over 1,000 posts in this thread that you started less than a year ago.
It will be mounted between the frames so it won't even be seen...

As to the postings.. all are welcome to visit the lab and look around
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:14 AM   #1004 (permalink)
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Silly question probably, but, what happens if one was to use something like the hc3sx in a flybarred heli?
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:23 AM   #1005 (permalink)
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There seems to be some option in there for that...only glanced at it, but it mentions something about it
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:02 AM   #1006 (permalink)
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I think I may have come across one of the largest of all the r/c "toys" out there. I happened to be close to a railway switching yard not too long ago. I noticed what appeared to be moving locomotives without anyone in the cabs. Upon closer inspection, I discovered that this was indeed the case. My curiousity got the best of me. I went into the yard and spoke with a couple of people there about what I had seen. One of the people showed me a "fanny pack". That was the transmitter for the r/c system that was controlling the locomotive. Apparently this technology has been in use for quite a few years in switching yards.

I was told that in a switching yard, when there is a moving locomotive with flashing lights, there is no one in the cab. It is being controlled by someone on the ground with a "fanny pack". I found it amazing to observe these huge diesel locomotives pulling entire trains all the time under r/c. I thought about all of that tonnage and all of that horsepower. It certainly put our r/c hobby into a different perspective.

I also got to meet my first female engineer (I think they are still called engineers). An engine came along the track and this very petite woman hopped off of it while it was still moving. She twiddled at couple of things on her radio and all of that tonnage stopped on a dime, right where it was supposed to. Since I was with my young nephew at the time, she let him push the button on the transmitter that blew the horn,
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:40 AM   #1007 (permalink)
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First reports on the HC3-sX...
The initial setup wasn't too difficult to get through.

The UI has prompts that explain what you need to do at each setup step.

What bit me in the A$$ was getting the throttle to function, II later found that you need to map the throttle channel along with the cyclic and tail channels AND need to rebind inorder for them to be accepted and work correctly.

The WereWolf has been gutted and the install is almost complete.
Just need to reroute power directly into the HC3, recheck swash and tail movement and 0 the head.

May have a test hop video by the end of the day if all goes well
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:04 PM   #1008 (permalink)
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Can't think of a better Heli for post 1000 on your "Laboratory has been buzzin'" thread
Surprised a bearing would be out already Night, didn't have that much time on it, did it?
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:02 PM   #1009 (permalink)
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Think the crash killed the bearing
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:34 PM   #1010 (permalink)
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9WoSob3hJg&feature=player_detailpage#t=16 s[/ame]

Well after 24 hour,, we end in a problem...

All night and today getting the hardware fitted and setup....went to test it....

That is when the Rx pack decided it had had enough just a hair past midstick and absolutely 0 CONTROL

But by gods grace it was still on the ground and beginning to list to the left, took the blade holder and threw it at the rotor which sent it over on it's side...

Stripping the main gear and giving me a chance to pull the plug..

Damage...

800 main blades, tail blades, boom supports, main gear.....

Lesson learned..don't try this when your exhausted..

Repairs should be fairly quick
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:47 PM   #1011 (permalink)
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Sorry to hear that Night but I know you take it all in your stride, so expect to see this airborne very soon
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Sooner than you would be lead to believe
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I never listen to my own advise

Repaired, Rebuilt, Refitted with the new Helicommand HC3-SX...

Tweaking time next to see what does what with this unit...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSgPE5NhSa8[/ame]
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:11 PM   #1014 (permalink)
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Good for you, night! Glad you got the bird up and in the air. That bird certainly took a good swipe at your lawn. Better the lawn than you. It certainly didn't ake you long to turn things around after the mishap. I will be very interested in hearing how you think the HC3-SX stacks up against CPII. In particular, if you think the HC3-SX is worth the full retail price as opposed to the CP II.

I was looking over a 700 N at the LHS this morning. That is one huge bird and heavy too. This was a FBL unit. Nothing fancy on it like what you do. Almost straight stock. Definitely out of my league for now. I can barely see a 550E on the far horizon.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:16 PM   #1015 (permalink)
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You mean you done it already, well done, how happy are you with the results of this test.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:27 PM   #1016 (permalink)
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The stabilization appears to function but is choppy and tends to nose forward.. going to have to start playing with the software and settings to see what needs adjusting.

One word of caution, you ABSOLUTELY must to get your signal mapping correct if you decide to use the HC3-SX as a stand alone unit without a Rx
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:19 PM   #1017 (permalink)
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Ok...
Here's where the learning curve kicks in..crash #2 I gotta laugh at it or I'd give up the hobby.

I found out the hard way how the auto recovery actually works, to say it was a bit startling would be an understatement.
It works something like the CPII but with a twist, depending on how you set it up.

If you choose this one option in the program.. it will auto recover the helicopter to either level flight or inverted depend on your attitude....

BUT.. it will also send the helicopter skyward for safety, needless to say I was trying to get the machine back down but the auto recovery wasn't having it as long as it was engaged.

So I hit throttle hold to stop the accent... WAY WRONG thing to do

By the time I realize what was happening and was trying to do the exact opposite of what the helicopter was trying to do..wound up trimming a few trees.

Repairs and rebuild are under way parts are on order should be back in the air by the coming weekend.. though a bit wiser
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So how should you have acted correctly to pacify the auto recovery will to transcend.
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Sorry to hear about these incidents nightflyr. Please have some solace in knowing that by you sharing your experiences with all of us, we are now being educated in "what to do / what not to do", should we ever have the GREAT opportunity to own one of these units.

I know for me personally, I am planning to go bigger (bigger than my 450Pro), and when I do, I am most certainly going to look at the HeliCommand HC3sX.

I admire your perseverance and positive attitude. I am not too sure I would be able to conduct myself in a similar manner as you, if I would be in the same situation of crashing, rebuilding, and then crashing again, trying to get the HC3sX setup properly, on an 800 size machine no less .

Here is a and a to you for your next flight, which shall be instead of

Cheers my friend. Happy, successful, and safe flying is my prayer for you.

May the Heli Gods here my prayers.
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So how should you have acted correctly to pacify the auto recovery will to transcend.
The "ACRO/PITCH" is meant to be used on a switch or slider preferably a slider...Once the helicopter corrects itself and begins it accent, you disengage the "ACRO/PITCH" to regain flight control and collective pitch.

Unlike CPII..once the recovery is completed the recovery action continues until the pilot stops it where CPII once @ a level attitude goes back to normal stabilization and flight.
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