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garagedude · 09-24-2015, 05:36 AM

I bought a Align 450L and have had nothing but problems out of the 3gx. Binding problems, etc. Never been powered where I could even try the servos. Anyway, what would be a good inexpensive gyro to replace the 3gx? Or, do I really need it when I'm not going to do 3D. If I can't change to another cheap gyro or do without one I'll get rid of it and go back to Blade products. Any help would be great...

macdad · 09-24-2015, 07:02 AM

There have been a lot of used mini-vbar a up for sale on the forum. A lot of folks are upgrading to the neo, I think. You may be able to get a beastx used for around $90-100. Even Ikons are coming down in price.

I have a eznov neuron that is selling for $150 new. It has worked great for me.

If you are flybarless, you will need a fbl gyro. I don't think you can really fly without one, 3d or not.

garagedude · 09-24-2015, 07:33 AM

I have a " L dominator" so I guess I'll start looking. Which online store has the best selection?

macdad · 09-24-2015, 08:11 AM

A couple good sites:

helidirect.com
Amain.com
Experiencerc.com

To name a few. The FBL Controller that you use is independent of the helicopter that you have. It is up to you to choose the one that has the features you want and the price that fits your budget.

For example, the Beastx and 3gx are usually programmed with a push button and blinking lights. A lot of other controllers (vbar, ikon, spirit, eznov etc) use a usb connection and computer software to setup. Many can also have a bluetooth module attached and program through an app.

The options and choices can be a bit daunting, but there is a lot of support here for almost every controller out there.

newbheliusr · 09-24-2015, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdad

I don't think you can really fly without one, 3d or not.

Yeah, you can, it's called no bar, and it's hard. Very hard.

newbheliusr · 09-24-2015, 09:57 AM

Personally, if you just need a decent fbl gyro, look for an ar7200bx in the for sale section. You can get them a lot cheaper than a new one. No computer needed for setup.

oliver1071 · 09-24-2015, 10:06 AM

The Align Gpro is a fantastic option as well super cheap to pick up pulled from kits on ebay or here. Probably in the $50-$80 range. and the software is identical to the VBar.

wrench567 · 09-24-2015, 07:06 PM

I'm a nooby too.
I am looking at either the Micro Brain or its cousin the Micro Ikon. Both have bailout and easy programming software. Actually written in English and not Chinglish. Nothing stolen from other companies like most clones. Some in the flybarless section say it does not have a governor. Not a deal breaker for me. I don't do 3D or stunts. Just hover around and circles and figure 8s.
Pete

CrashNburn420 · 09-24-2015, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbheliusr

Personally, if you just need a decent fbl gyro, look for an ar7200bx in the for sale section. You can get them a lot cheaper than a new one. No computer needed for setup.

+1 on the AR7200bx. The setup is straight forward and the manual is written pretty well. The 3gx I found confusing the first time I set it up with the manual.

You should be able to buy a used ar7200 for around $100 on here. You could probably sell your 3gx for $40 - 50 on here to help off set the cost.

alyon187 · 09-24-2015, 11:05 PM

The micros may sound good but you need adaptor cables to run the servos for a 450 in which ive heard are very brittle. I would look through some of the options out there and maybe watch some videos on how they operate. YouTube has alot of those. I use the ar7200bx on my 250 and vbar on my 450s. I personally like thw option to see the setup through the computer and the wizards that show you what to do instead of reading a pamphlet or manual. I also like the bluetooth option because I just bring out my phone and I can see all that's going on with my vbar and make changes if I want right there on the spot. It also has vibration analysis and logging. I havent tried any of the other fbl gyros yet but may further down the line. But check out the forums, read what they offer and see if they are in your price range. And like mentioned above, many times you can get the one your looking for here on the fs forum for cheap and in most cases, like new.

garagedude · 09-25-2015, 09:59 PM

thanks everyone for the tips. I gotta start searching now..

09-24-2015, 05:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
garagedude Registered Users Join Date: May 2013 Location: Kentucky, Lagrange	450 help I bought a Align 450L and have had nothing but problems out of the 3gx. Binding problems, etc. Never been powered where I could even try the servos. Anyway, what would be a good inexpensive gyro to replace the 3gx? Or, do I really need it when I'm not going to do 3D. If I can't change to another cheap gyro or do without one I'll get rid of it and go back to Blade products. Any help would be great... __________________ Night 230S, 200 SRX, Blade Inductrix, Nano QX, 130X blinged out, Nano CP X, MSR, Retired MCX 2,Spektrum DX-8

09-24-2015, 07:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
macdad Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2014	There have been a lot of used mini-vbar a up for sale on the forum. A lot of folks are upgrading to the neo, I think. You may be able to get a beastx used for around $90-100. Even Ikons are coming down in price. I have a eznov neuron that is selling for $150 new. It has worked great for me. If you are flybarless, you will need a fbl gyro. I don't think you can really fly without one, 3d or not. __________________ Oxy 2, Gaui X3 #1, Protos 380, Gaui X5, Synergy 766, Specter 700 Oxy 2/X3/Protos 380/X5/766/Specter 700 Consecutive Successful Flights (Current) = 32/16/12/145/7/50 Consecutive Successful Flights (Max) = 145

09-24-2015, 07:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
garagedude Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2013 Location: Kentucky, Lagrange	I have a " L dominator" so I guess I'll start looking. Which online store has the best selection? __________________ Night 230S, 200 SRX, Blade Inductrix, Nano QX, 130X blinged out, Nano CP X, MSR, Retired MCX 2,Spektrum DX-8

09-24-2015, 08:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
macdad Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2014	A couple good sites: helidirect.com Amain.com Experiencerc.com To name a few. The FBL Controller that you use is independent of the helicopter that you have. It is up to you to choose the one that has the features you want and the price that fits your budget. For example, the Beastx and 3gx are usually programmed with a push button and blinking lights. A lot of other controllers (vbar, ikon, spirit, eznov etc) use a usb connection and computer software to setup. Many can also have a bluetooth module attached and program through an app. The options and choices can be a bit daunting, but there is a lot of support here for almost every controller out there. __________________ Oxy 2, Gaui X3 #1, Protos 380, Gaui X5, Synergy 766, Specter 700 Oxy 2/X3/Protos 380/X5/766/Specter 700 Consecutive Successful Flights (Current) = 32/16/12/145/7/50 Consecutive Successful Flights (Max) = 145

09-24-2015, 09:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
newbheliusr Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2011	Personally, if you just need a decent fbl gyro, look for an ar7200bx in the for sale section. You can get them a lot cheaper than a new one. No computer needed for setup. __________________ Heli's I have: Goblin 500 (Vbar Neo), Gaui X5(Vbar Neo), X7(Vbar Neo), Innova 600 Night heli (Vbar Neo Vbar Vcontrol I'm the not so newbheliusr as I have been here a while. But I like this name.

09-24-2015, 10:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
oliver1071 Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011	The Align Gpro is a fantastic option as well super cheap to pick up pulled from kits on ebay or here. Probably in the $50-$80 range. and the software is identical to the VBar. __________________ __________ Goblin 380, 500, 570, Mikado 690SX, 480Xx(Stretched 500) , Protos Mini, Max V2 , Oxy 3, Vbar Control/Neo Vlink (Citizen 758)YouTubeProgress:http://tinyurl.com/oliver1071

09-24-2015, 07:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
wrench567 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2015	I'm a nooby too. I am looking at either the Micro Brain or its cousin the Micro Ikon. Both have bailout and easy programming software. Actually written in English and not Chinglish. Nothing stolen from other companies like most clones. Some in the flybarless section say it does not have a governor. Not a deal breaker for me. I don't do 3D or stunts. Just hover around and circles and figure 8s. Pete __________________ I started with nothing and still have most of that left. DX7, 450 Frankenbird, 500 Align, Blade Nano CPs, Blade Inductrix. Chase 360, and F450 quad.

09-24-2015, 11:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
alyon187 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015	The micros may sound good but you need adaptor cables to run the servos for a 450 in which ive heard are very brittle. I would look through some of the options out there and maybe watch some videos on how they operate. YouTube has alot of those. I use the ar7200bx on my 250 and vbar on my 450s. I personally like thw option to see the setup through the computer and the wizards that show you what to do instead of reading a pamphlet or manual. I also like the bluetooth option because I just bring out my phone and I can see all that's going on with my vbar and make changes if I want right there on the spot. It also has vibration analysis and logging. I havent tried any of the other fbl gyros yet but may further down the line. But check out the forums, read what they offer and see if they are in your price range. And like mentioned above, many times you can get the one your looking for here on the fs forum for cheap and in most cases, like new. __________________ Goblin 380 (Spirit), X3 (VBAR), DX9 (I.Y.A.O.Y.A.S.)

09-25-2015, 09:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
garagedude Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2013 Location: Kentucky, Lagrange	450 help thanks everyone for the tips. I gotta start searching now.. __________________ Night 230S, 200 SRX, Blade Inductrix, Nano QX, 130X blinged out, Nano CP X, MSR, Retired MCX 2,Spektrum DX-8

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