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mtymyk · 05-02-2012, 07:27 AM

I just received email that the Diabolo is in stock and ready to ship. I will be using a 4525-520 Ultimate. Question is should I go Yge 160 or HJ120? I was thinking Helijive all the way, but I am now questioning whether or not the HJ will be sufficient for the 4525. I plan on running 2100 max with 12.5 -+ pitch.

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Gerd · 05-02-2012, 05:09 PM

That´s ok, use HJ or PJ with cooling hat.

mtymyk · 05-02-2012, 05:47 PM

Great HeliJive it is, I just prefer the gov on it although I might try the Vbar gov eventually, and the ease of programming Jive. Can't wait to fly it!!

Mercuriell · 05-02-2012, 07:51 PM

HJ will work well except for the most gruelling high pitch runs. YGE 160HV is good too - I use one on my Diabolo but it is a bit more trouble to setup and has not such a soft start as the Jive - it does deliver more kV to the motor though and won't thermal.

Gerd · 05-03-2012, 01:14 AM

Don´t forget if you order the first time a YGE to add in each case a programming card "ProgCard2" to your order to modify the parametres. On the Jive the factory presets are normally fine and you do not need the Kontronik Progcards or ProgDisc, the stick/beep pragramming is ok.

mkovalcson · 05-03-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercuriell

HJ will work well except for the most gruelling high pitch runs. YGE 160HV is good too - I use one on my Diabolo but it is a bit more trouble to setup and has not such a soft start as the Jive - it does deliver more kV to the motor though and won't thermal.

It will be interesting to see how the Kosmik 160A or 200A does with one of these big motors...

mtymyk · 05-03-2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercuriell

HJ will work well except for the most gruelling high pitch runs. YGE 160HV is good too - I use one on my Diabolo but it is a bit more trouble to setup and has not such a soft start as the Jive - it does deliver more kV to the motor though and won't thermal.

I'd heard of the soft starts not as smooth as Jive, but never new the fact with YGE and increasing kv... Plus I'm staying Jive cause I have J Log, running Jives on all my helis

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helicraze · 05-09-2012, 05:11 AM

The jive gov works the best, i never had issue with jive

OverTemp · 06-16-2012, 12:09 AM

OK... so I'm pretty sure I'm getting one now.

Motor Choices:
Xera 4030-3Y (Already have it) (516kV measured)
Pyro 700-52
Scorp 4525-520 Ultimate

ESC Choices:
Power Jive 120HV
Any others?
Will the JIVE do OK with the 4525?

Thanks!

Mercuriell · 06-16-2012, 12:45 AM

THe Jive should play very nicely with the Y wind of the Ultimate - some people had probs with the delta winds of the 4525 LE with the HeliJive but many did not (me inc)

OverTemp · 06-16-2012, 03:04 AM

OK... cool. I just took advantage of a couple father's day sales.

Got a 4525-520 Ultimate for $310.
Got a JIVE 120HV for $490.

Pretty thrifty I think

A jive on sale=
$100 for BEC
$290 for ESC
$100 for peace of mind.

smsodhi · 06-16-2012, 04:01 AM

Nice one!!
Just out of interest why did you go for the Jive and not the Helijive? Not that there is anything wrong at all with the Jive, off course, just wondering?

DT75 · 06-16-2012, 05:06 AM

I too buy Powerjive's, because I already have both progcard's, and don't want to buy a progdisc. Not planning on using V-gov either, so the PJ suits me better.

OverTemp · 06-16-2012, 05:11 AM

Just because I'd read a lot of stories of people having problems with certain motors when using the Heli Jive. I'd prefer it to be as robust and flexible as possible. Newer isn't necessarily always better.

I can't believe I found that motor on sale... Hard to find as is!

Now I just have to wait till nov for the Heli. Bummer.

Think a black miniV would be OK? Should I get a blueline, or maybe even a silverline instead?

Cheers

CACN · 06-16-2012, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverTemp

OK... cool. I just took advantage of a couple father's day sales.

Got a 4525-520 Ultimate for $310.
Got a JIVE 120HV for $490.

Wow..that is a great deal! If you don't mind, where did you find them?

OverTemp · 06-16-2012, 06:57 PM

I got the motor from rcdepot, but they only had one on stock... sorry. Seems like if anybody had the motor they only had 1.

I got the ESC from Readyheli using the father's day promo code. I just checked and they still have more.

Cheers!

CACN · 06-16-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverTemp

I got the motor from rcdepot, but they only had one on stock... sorry. Seems like if anybody had the motor they only had 1.

I got the ESC from Readyheli using the father's day promo code. I just checked and they still have more.

Cheers!

Thanks for the info.

05-02-2012, 07:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
mtymyk Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2010	Esc motor combo I just received email that the Diabolo is in stock and ready to ship. I will be using a 4525-520 Ultimate. Question is should I go Yge 160 or HJ120? I was thinking Helijive all the way, but I am now questioning whether or not the HJ will be sufficient for the 4525. I plan on running 2100 max with 12.5 -+ pitch. Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk __________________ Team Rotorquest/ SAB Heli Canada

05-02-2012, 05:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
mtymyk Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jun 2010	Great HeliJive it is, I just prefer the gov on it although I might try the Vbar gov eventually, and the ease of programming Jive. Can't wait to fly it!! __________________ Team Rotorquest/ SAB Heli Canada

05-02-2012, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mercuriell HF Support Join Date: Sep 2006	HJ will work well except for the most gruelling high pitch runs. YGE 160HV is good too - I use one on my Diabolo but it is a bit more trouble to setup and has not such a soft start as the Jive - it does deliver more kV to the motor though and won't thermal. __________________ John

06-16-2012, 12:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
OverTemp Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	OK... so I'm pretty sure I'm getting one now. Motor Choices: Xera 4030-3Y (Already have it) (516kV measured) Pyro 700-52 Scorp 4525-520 Ultimate ESC Choices: Power Jive 120HV Any others? Will the JIVE do OK with the 4525? Thanks! __________________ 1 - Diabolo 1 stuffed with, well, see below 2 - Diabolo 2 stuffed with testosterone, jittery sweat, and rippling flanks

06-16-2012, 12:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mercuriell HF Support Join Date: Sep 2006	THe Jive should play very nicely with the Y wind of the Ultimate - some people had probs with the delta winds of the 4525 LE with the HeliJive but many did not (me inc) __________________ John

05-02-2012, 05:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gerd Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2005	That´s ok, use HJ or PJ with cooling hat.

05-03-2012, 01:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gerd Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2005	Don´t forget if you order the first time a YGE to add in each case a programming card "ProgCard2" to your order to modify the parametres. On the Jive the factory presets are normally fine and you do not need the Kontronik Progcards or ProgDisc, the stick/beep pragramming is ok.

05-09-2012, 05:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
helicraze Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008	The jive gov works the best, i never had issue with jive

06-16-2012, 03:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
OverTemp Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	OK... cool. I just took advantage of a couple father's day sales. Got a 4525-520 Ultimate for $310. Got a JIVE 120HV for $490. Pretty thrifty I think A jive on sale= $100 for BEC $290 for ESC $100 for peace of mind. __________________ 1 - Diabolo 1 stuffed with, well, see below 2 - Diabolo 2 stuffed with testosterone, jittery sweat, and rippling flanks

06-16-2012, 04:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
smsodhi Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2010	Nice one!! Just out of interest why did you go for the Jive and not the Helijive? Not that there is anything wrong at all with the Jive, off course, just wondering? __________________ minicopter DIABOLO LOGO 550sx scorpion spirit futaba IISI

06-16-2012, 05:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
DT75 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway	I too buy Powerjive's, because I already have both progcard's, and don't want to buy a progdisc. Not planning on using V-gov either, so the PJ suits me better. __________________ minicopter Diabolo, Henseleit TDR, X50e, X50n, Raptor 50 Futaba 2.4 GHz

06-16-2012, 05:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
OverTemp Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	Just because I'd read a lot of stories of people having problems with certain motors when using the Heli Jive. I'd prefer it to be as robust and flexible as possible. Newer isn't necessarily always better. I can't believe I found that motor on sale... Hard to find as is! Now I just have to wait till nov for the Heli. Bummer. Think a black miniV would be OK? Should I get a blueline, or maybe even a silverline instead? Cheers __________________ 1 - Diabolo 1 stuffed with, well, see below 2 - Diabolo 2 stuffed with testosterone, jittery sweat, and rippling flanks

06-16-2012, 06:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
OverTemp Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	I got the motor from rcdepot, but they only had one on stock... sorry. Seems like if anybody had the motor they only had 1. I got the ESC from Readyheli using the father's day promo code. I just checked and they still have more. Cheers! __________________ 1 - Diabolo 1 stuffed with, well, see below 2 - Diabolo 2 stuffed with testosterone, jittery sweat, and rippling flanks

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