Flight and take off advice

[Leedodd]

Hi all. Been out today with my 230s. Found on spool up in stability mode the heli wants to tip over. I'm almost flying it before it's off the ground. Is this normal and is there any way of correcting this other than on the sticks.also returning to land the Heli gently lowers until it suddenly drops without warning needing more collective??? Any advice appreciated thanks

[Liduno]

This seems to be recurring topic as of late..lol

First things first, every small Blade/E-Flite heli I've ever flown tends to tilt on lift off. Chances are your 230s is acting normal. The flight system doesn't know how to act on the ground, it's a ''flight system'' after all..lol Vibrations, ground effect, friction from the skids, etcetera, etcetera.

Now with that being said, I've done a few tests today to see how ''my 230s'' would act.

I've found, for the most part, taking off in stability mode seems to be the most ''stable''
A nice slow throttle up, a little cyclic input, will usually get it in the air pretty uneventfully.

Now that's not to say you can't do it other ways. You can take off in agility 1 or 2, but it can get out of hand quickly if you're not used to it.

I found, with ''my 230s'' that taking off in agility 1 or 2 can be smooth as butter, or more like a pissed off hornet..lol It depends on the amount of pitch I give it during spool up.
I'm pretty used to how mine acts, so it's no longer an issue in any mode. You will get there too.

[Spazztl]

I take off in stability mode and mine likes to tip left . i just counter it with right collective and throttle up. as soon as its in the air the as3x kicks in .
I usually land in iu1 and use throttle hold a foot or so above the ground, but iv'e not noticed any sudden drops sry .

[Liduno]

Sometimes sudden drops can be from wind, or simply just lowering the throttle too much. Much like taking off, landing seems more stable in stability mode. It can be done in all modes once you're used to how it flies.

[Leedodd]

Just read through the other post on hear about the same problem. I'll just correct it an take off a bit quicker. Sudden drops are a bit of a pain though.

[Leedodd]

I've managed to do a few flips now and hover in iu1 for about 15secs a time. At height at the moment so it's difficult to tell when your level unless heli moves . Getting used to it now as spending a lot of time on the sim

[Liduno]

Much cheaper to crash on the sim.

[Leedodd]

Inverted hover that is ha

[toys2cars2toys]

Originally Posted by Leedodd

Inverted hover that is ha

Too cold, too wet (see my location!)

[Spazztl]

on the inverted hovering . I'm working on tail in inverted at the moment , Adrenaline pur! The 230 really shines at learning new things

[N8KC]

I'm mearly 7 packs in with my 230s which is the first cp heli I've successfully(I'll save my embarrassing head first jump to a blade 450 stories for later) flown. Mine tips any random direction on takeoff in stability mode, but it's usually before it gets up to takeoff speed. The tail kicks hard right also during wind up. Some tail guidance on the stick solves that easy enough. A little collective to keep it level and a smooth, quick increase on the throttle stick once it's up to speed gets it off the ground without event. Half an inch off the ground and it's smooth as glass though. I've had zero issues on landing in stability mode. Calm, smooth and precise.

I've not tried takeoff/ landing in agility 1 or 2. I did do a side roll at a couple hundred feet in 1. I needed quite a bit of that altitude buffer to complete it, about 3x what I would have guessed. Higher rates or agility 2 probably would have helped, but it was a baby step for me. Definitely give yourself lots of space/ altitude doing new maneuvers, that's my recommendation. I'll go crazy on the SIM, but it's a lot more stressful and harder in real life early on anyways...lol

[Leedodd]

Weathers a bit better today so I'll b off out again today. Nice to see some one else in Cumbria flying. Thaught I mite be the only one. Any one no of any clubs in Cumbria for helis

[wab223]

Originally Posted by Leedodd

Weathers a bit better today so I'll b off out again today. Nice to see some one else in Cumbria flying. Thaught I mite be the only one. Any one no of any clubs in Cumbria for helis

Climb to the top of Blencathra and take off from Sharp edge. Then it won't matter which way it tilts.

[d12bn]

Blade 230 S take off options (2 min 38 sec)

[Liduno]

If you watch his thumb, he makes corrections on every lift off.

[Leedodd]

Out today. Takeoffs are getting easyr now.went inverted hover and the light gust of wind pushed heli to close to me and the ground for my likeing. Instead of staying nose in I tried to rotate it to tail in. Not enough time and crashed into a small stream. Battery gone speed controller gone reciver gone. My fault for trying things I'm not really ready for ha. New 230 is out the box ready for right side up hovers and turns only

[Liduno]

I'm gonna guess you were flying at or close to eye level? Try to fly 3 mistakes high..lol

[Leedodd]

Would have been about 20 ft . I'm going to be hovering and flying normally for a while. And definitely higher ha . At least I have a lot of spares. how many helis and crashes will I end up with. A lot I'm thinking ha. Really good fun flying though

[Leedodd]

How high is 3 mistakes

[wab223]

Its just means give yourself ample time to recover.

Its a good suggestion and impossible at the same time.

Your confusing me because you are going inverted and yet you sound like you are new to CP helis?