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Old 10-29-2011, 08:19 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Mr goblin can i know whats the difference between the 660 , 700 and 770 goblin? I know the frame is still the same only difference is the boom length, blades and belt am i right to say that? Just to confirm thanks
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:20 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Also can you attach a picture of the confirm colour of the canopy that comes with the kit too as i have seen many different colours
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:59 AM   #43 (permalink)
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What are the teeth counts...
1st stage belt: pinion and driven pulley
2nd stage gears: pinion and driven gear
Tail belt: drive pulley and driven pulley.
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1st stage belt = 15 to 28 / 60
2st stage gear = 19/68
3st tail belt = 36/27

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Old 10-29-2011, 11:06 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Also can you attach a picture of the confirm colour of the canopy that comes with the kit too as i have seen many different colours

for now, Goblin 630 is different in:

boom
tail belts
tail pulley
damper

for now, Goblin 770 is different in:

boom
tail belts
tail pulley
main shaft
damper

The Goblin 700 production will be very similar to the picture attached.

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Old 10-29-2011, 11:09 AM   #45 (permalink)
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wow A1 respond thanks mr goblin
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:19 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Have any of u guys considering Kontronik PYRO 700-52L to power the goblin or scorpion hk4525?
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:52 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What are you using to level the swashplate in the V Bar setup menue?

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Old 10-29-2011, 07:20 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Awesome.
How are you able to run bearings on your main grips and a solid shaft to your swash?
Doesn't the movement in the head and the fact you are using solid pushrods cause bad loadings in the grips and bearings?
I'd like to know this too..

Also, this has probably been mentioned before but what's the main shaft size?
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Default Mainshaft is 12mm

http://www.goblin-helicopter.com/index.php

Just scroll down the page. It's in Italian, but measures, weight and gear ratios are pretty logical to work out.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:30 PM   #50 (permalink)
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What are you using to level the swashplate in the V Bar setup menue?

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Sorry, I do not understand what information you ask. Could you repeat the question?
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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http://www.goblin-helicopter.com/index.php

Just scroll down the page. It's in Italian, but measures, weight and gear ratios are pretty logical to work out.
This page is an old page.
In a few days will be on line the new website.
The shaft is 12 mm. Steel hardened and tempered.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:13 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Which one do you use?

http://www.readyheli.com/LEVELER4-Lo...g_p_34924.html

http://www.readyheli.com/LEVELER5-T-...g_p_34925.html
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:01 PM   #53 (permalink)
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ok

We used a "Swashplate Leveler" done by us. No need to remove hub.
Probably will uprade in 2012.
The shaft is 12 mm.
This is ok.
http://www.readyheli.com/LEVELER5-T-...g_p_34925.html
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:03 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Here's what happens during the rocking of the head (pic attached)...whether or not it's a good thing to have the ball position change back and forth, that I don't know. I'm sure the dampeners are extremely stiff on the goblin, so this drawing is a bit exaggerated to say the least.


Hi,
I took your picture.
I edited the picture to see what happens.

The movement of the spindle in the Goblin is very low.
The drawing emphasizes.... The swashplate remains oriented correctly, because the two linkage go in the opposite direction. The two linkage are not infinitely rigid and then deform.
In practice, their rigidity is added to the rigidity of the damper.

The system was developed with many tests. We worked on the damper, on their preload, on the distances. The result is very good for us.
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Hi,
The swashplate remains oriented correctly, because the two linkage go in the opposite direction. In fact, one goes forward, the other back. The two linkage are not infinitely rigid and then deform..
I think you mean the swashplate remains oriented correctly, because the two linkages go in the same direction. If they where going in the opposite direction we would have rotation in the swashplate instead of a slight deformation on the linkages. Your picture shows that correctly.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:25 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I think you mean the swashplate remains oriented correctly, because the two linkages go in the same direction. If they where going in the opposite direction we would have rotation in the swashplate instead of a slight deformation on the linkages. Your picture shows that correctly.

Yes, I meant that in the same direction.
thanks Aris
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Hi,
I took your picture.
I edited the picture to see what happens.

The movement of the spindle in the Goblin is very low.
The drawing emphasizes.... The swashplate remains oriented correctly, because the two linkage go in the opposite direction. The two linkage are not infinitely rigid and then deform.
In practice, their rigidity is added to the rigidity of the damper.

The system was developed with many tests. We worked on the damper, on their preload, on the distances. The result is very good for us.
Yes, this is what I was suspecting, the original image was wrong and it wouldn't happen that way.
You saying your pushrods flex slightly?
Just interested in the mechanics behind it
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:34 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Just wanted to say that it is very cool that you guys (SAB) started this technical thread and are staying on top of it to boot! I have one last question. Did you guys have any problems with the servos flexing vertically since they are mounted horizontally?
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Just wanted to say that it is very cool that you guys (SAB) started this technical thread and are staying on top of it to boot! I have one last question. Did you guys have any problems with the servos flexing vertically since they are mounted horizontally?
Hi,

The servos are mounted with rubber but very tight.
In this way the servos very little flex.
Never any problems.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:53 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Unless I missed it...

With the batches that HD is getting "WHAT" is the first run of Goblins color scheme going to be?????
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