Power systems discussion

[Mike2112]

Originally Posted by bendisar

hello all, my stock 500L motor has cooked magnets, and is already very weak, so
its time to upgrade
i got my self a CC ice 75A ESC, and i am struggling about what motor should i choose?
i will choose ether a scorpion 1600 or 1400KV
i fly 3D, and kinda hard
i understand that on paper, the scorpion 1400 is more efficient, and has gobs of power
but is very power hungry and will probably short my flight time to 3.5 minutes
while the 1600 will be easier on the packs with longer flight times and lower temps
my question is, can a scorp 1600 hold the headspeed well under load
like in a 4 point tictoc, can it sustain good HS under that kind of load
so what is your opinion, which is better for 3D
scorpion 1400 or 1600?
thanks all

I'm curious about the same question. I want to go 1400. I am now running a 1600/15T at 2900 HS and bog above ten degrees. I'm thinking about a 1400 w a 17T pinion

[onefstfoknv6]

i've had about 20 flights on the Venom 3200. Solid head speed. Steady under load. I use them as a 6 min warm up pack before i put in the 6s 2650 45c TP pro power packs.

[mohd sani]

hai all.. i have question about setting my t500
aim using moto hyperion 1600kv ,hobbywing 80a esc, 2600 mah 35c, 13pinion.
its ok this setting using 80a esc coz my cell like hot than using stock esc 60a.

[MrHeliNewbie]

Motor Scorpion
hk-4025-1390 or 4020-1390
hk-4025-1100 or 4020-1100
hk-4025-890 or 4020-910
Flerpie did give me a data sheet for them but I still don't see volt input. Is way to get the info by some formula ???? I know they were trying to help but I need to understand what there doing to get volt input. based of the data sheet from scorpion.

Well with the help of flerpie I did get a sheet with factory recommendations. Scorpion listed the 4020-910 as a 8s to 10s motor. So with that said I have some play room with it.

This is what I'm going with .....
Castle Creations Ice2 80HV
Castle Creations BEC-Pro ( high input volts )
Scorpion 4020-910-5mm
Battery
9s 3-3s 2200 Mah (13T,14T,15T) for head speed tuning (Total battery weight 559g)
8s 2-4s 2650mah (15T,16T,17T) for head speed tuning (Total battery weight 582g)
I will have 5 pinions to do some testing with. I think this is a good starting point.

[flerpie]

Originally Posted by MrHeliNewbie

Motor Scorpion
hk-4025-1390 or 4020-1390
hk-4025-1100 or 4020-1100
hk-4025-890 or 4020-910
Flerpie did give me a data sheet for them but I still don't see volt input. Is way to get the info by some formula ???? I know they were trying to help but I need to understand what there doing to get volt input. based of the data sheet from scorpion.

Well with the help of flerpie I did get a sheet with factory recommendations. Scorpion listed the 4020-910 as a 8s to 10s motor. So with that said I have some play room with it.

This is what I'm going with .....
Castle Creations Ice2 80HV
Castle Creations BEC-Pro ( high input volts )
Scorpion 4020-910-5mm
Battery
9s 3-3s 2200 Mah (13T,14T,15T) for head speed tuning (Total battery weight 559g)
8s 2-4s 2650mah (15T,16T,17T) for head speed tuning (Total battery weight 582g)
I will have 5 pinions to do some testing with. I think this is a good starting point.

Yeah..I wish they stated outright what voltage the motor is designed for
instead of just the S rating. I think that's because some folks run Lith-ion
batteries which have a different per cell voltage. It's a small difference
like a volt...so it's no big deal. It's just easier for the motor people to
cover both cell types if they just call it by S rating.

Doin' the math is the only way I know of to come up with how many volts
10S would equal.

[mmjl_]

Hi, can someone tell me if Venom is a good brand for a charger? I'm new to the hobby and I just purchased this charger below before consulting the knowledge of this forum.

I also bought a Venom 3s 11.1v 5000mah 35c

BTW, this is for my new TREX 450 3gx which I have yet to open

https://www.gonitrohobbies.com/Produ...tCode=VEN-0657

Thanks for the help...

[MrHeliNewbie]

I had a Venom Pro It did a good job. The chargers did have problems with the build in fans about a year ago. Don't know if there still having problems with them or not.
Mine started making noise after about 6 weekends of racing indoors last winter.
I now use a Hi-Tec 4 battery combo charger. You have to get an inverter to run this unit indoors. Nice being able to charge 4 batterys at once. But this charger lowers the charge amps down to 5amp max when charging 4 batterys. Max amp output is 20 amps so you get a 5 amp charge per battery.

[mmjl_]

Thanks MrHeli. I guess I'll give it a try and see how far I get with it. As I get more advanced, I'll explore better options


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[Costo]

3S 5000mAh is far too big for the 450... It won't fit under the canopy and will make the bird too heavy. You should get some 3S 2100mAh instead, even 2600mAh might be pushing it...

Good news, the adapted batteries for the 450 are cheaper than the one you bought.

[truracer]

Good info here. Looking to get a 500 and xactly what I was looking for

[701superjet]

hey guys. im going 8s on my trex500. I want to run the 1210 with a 13t pinion. I have read where guys say this is a good set up with lots of power. My concern is that scorpion lists this motor as a 6s motor. Do you guys think it will be ok to run 8s on this???

[heli-insane]

I have a quick question as well! I have a t-rex 500 i am gonna set up for running on 6 cell battery!

Batteries i will be using are pulse ultra 6s 3000mah 45c.

Electric motor i have is the align 500mx.

I have a gaui 100amp esc but will be selling it to buy a castle creations esc!

Im thinking i will go with the 100a esc so that i have governor mode!

What is the best size gear to use on the motor??

And what head speed should i be aiming for to make this heli a 3d monster??

Also this is the 500 esp converted to DFC!

All tips are greatly appreciated!

thxs Keith

[Elios000]

13T pinion should be fine for 2600rpm head speed

[701superjet]

i had the older 1600kv motor and 13t pinion. was flying around 3000hs i believe. it flew pretty good. i know there are alot better setups for 6s though. ive just flown that stock setup though the last 5 years. ive beat the crap out of that align motor and esc. the castle 100 should be more than enough. anyone know about the scorpion 1210 on 8s though?

[sereniitty]

so i guess 3s lipos x2 wont work well enough ?

[cafediablo_30]

Originally Posted by sereniitty

so i guess 3s lipos x2 wont work well enough ?

it should run fine,...I've run mine with 2-2600 3s lipos and no problems,..just more to wire up though but it works.

[cofl1001]

I know maybe this is a bit off-topic and almost dead topic also but I have 450 helis and am looking towards a tarot 500 kit. The question is: can I use zippy 2200 20C in series for a 500 heli or the C rating is too low? Also I can choose between the 1400 and 1720 leopard motors which come at same price...Since I dont fly 3D only circtuits and ffflights for now which motor should I choose? Also how much extra time I can consider gaining by using the 1400kv motor instead of the 1720 one?
Thanks for your input
Florin

[Leo Wild]

Hello. Mynew setup is:
Viper 5018 motor
Talon 90 esc
6s 2200 battery
Anyone tried this before please let me know as im going to try it for the first time today

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[jim treg]

I am using 6s 4000mah in both of my Trex 500s with scale fuselage 500e & ec135 they work great and extra weight needed for CG, also using Hyperion 1210 kv.

[FaisalHeli's]

Iv been running 3300MAH 30c and 2600Mah 40C on the 500MX motor and CC 100 Edge ESC, CC 20A BECpro. I set my governor at 2200 for IDLE 1 and 2500 IDLE 2. running a 15T pinion. Had no problems at all, everything is running smooth and the motor doesn't scream like it used to do.
I fly for 5 minutes 3D, it gets my 3300's at 3.8 or 3.75 per cell.

Id love to send a flight log but I don't have any saved.