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tony whiteside · 11-27-2015, 05:48 AM

What's the monster power motor from scorpion on the 500 align?

tony whiteside · 11-27-2015, 06:01 AM

Looks to be the 3226 1600 kv

TACO88 · 11-27-2015, 07:10 AM

The Scorpion 3226 1400kv is another candidate. I have both and the 1400kv has more power than the 1600kv.

Relisys190 · 11-27-2015, 10:32 AM

I run the 3226 1600 at about 2850

but i've heard the 1400 version is ridiculous at about 2900 rpms on the ESP non pro version.

-Markus

DCflyer · 11-27-2015, 12:07 PM

The 1600kv is a 6 pole motor and the 1400kv is 10 pole. 1400kv is a couple hundred watts more powerful. For an ESP, gearing wise, the 1600 is a much better option if running governed.

I have the 1400kv governed on a 16t (162t main gear) at 2750rpm castle and its maxed out. Still rips and I get 4 min flights out of it but would rather have a little more rpm than than torque. You could always go 17t but I'm no willing to do that since I'm only running a 75a esc for a lightweight setup.

tony whiteside · 11-27-2015, 02:00 PM

I don't run gov, so 1400 and 15 tooth?

DCflyer · 11-27-2015, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony whiteside

I don't run gov, so 1400 and 15 tooth?

Running TC's 15t for mild. 16t for wild.

tony whiteside · 11-28-2015, 02:33 AM

Thanks dude

whodothevoodoo · 11-29-2015, 08:23 AM

Couple of quick questions. Would the 3226 and 14 work with the 500L, and which ESC are you guys running with this setup? CC 75 Lite?

Alex M K · 11-29-2015, 01:09 PM

Tony, beware of something really important!

I run a Scorpion HK-3226-1600 with a 14T pinion on a souped up Trex 500L, with head speeds between 2900 and 3200 ---see link here, and one thing you have to be warned about and know about, that no one above is telling you!

The Align one way bearings can't handle it!! I go through OWB's on this sucker like condoms on a NY street hooker!!! Doesn't matter what you put there...the bearings are crappy and can't handle the extra power and demand..don't waste too much on this set up.

going with a a powerful motor on a heli that has a mediocre OWB is bad.

Kind regards

Alex

whodothevoodoo · 11-29-2015, 01:58 PM

Sounds like KDE needs to make us a new OWB.

Alex M K · 11-29-2015, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodothevoodoo

Sounds like KDE needs to make us a new OWB.

I'd be customer number 1 for those as well, maybe I could send a link of this thread to Patrick..

I get about 5 to 10 flight out of the Trex500L with the stock OWB, with this motor and a slightly higher than stock head speed, its very annoying..and if you crash ...forget about it...

Kind regards

Alex

whodothevoodoo · 11-29-2015, 02:08 PM

I just finished sending him a email asking if he can help us. I'd even buy the KDE550XF-1200-G3 to go along with it if he did that for us.

Alex M K · 11-29-2015, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whodothevoodoo

I just finished sending him a email asking if he can help us.

ahahahaha so did I!!

Kind regards

Alex

Mike2112 · 11-29-2015, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCflyer

The 1600kv is a 6 pole motor and the 1400kv is 10 pole. 1400kv is a couple hundred watts more powerful. For an ESP, gearing wise, the 1600 is a much better option if running governed.

I have the 1400kv governed on a 16t (162t main gear) at 2750rpm castle and its maxed out. Still rips and I get 4 min flights out of it but would rather have a little more rpm than than torque. You could always go 17t but I'm no willing to do that since I'm only running a 75a esc for a lightweight setup.

Have both too and ran all possible setups. The 1400/ 17t combo is a lipo toaster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex M K

Tony, beware of something really important!

I run a Scorpion HK-3226-1600 with a 14T pinion on a souped up Trex 500L, with head speeds between 2900 and 3200 ---see link here, and one thing you have to be warned about and know about, that no one above is telling you!

The Align one way bearings can't handle it!! I go through OWB's on this sucker like condoms on a NY street hooker!!! Doesn't matter what you put there...the bearings are crappy and can't handle the extra power and demand..don't waste too much on this set up.

going with a a powerful motor on a heli that has a mediocre OWB is bad.

Kind regards

Alex

I am on my 3rd owb. Out of 1,060 flights. At least for me they both gave me lots of warning before they failed.

xokia · 11-30-2015, 10:48 AM

Are you guys running straight cut gears?

Alex M K · 11-30-2015, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xokia

Are you guys running straight cut gears?

I run slant 134 T gears

Kind regards

Alex

Mike2112 · 11-30-2015, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex M K

I run slant 134 T gears

Kind regards

Alex

Strait

whodothevoodoo · 11-30-2015, 11:32 PM

In a email resopnce that I got from Patrick, he recommends running straight cut gears as a way of reducing side loads on the OWB. After my budget recooperates from Xmas, I think I'll pick up his recommended parts and give it a try. 2,900 sounds like fun! Below is a link that Patrick provided to his 500 setup.
http://www.kdedirect.com/blogs/perfo...x-500e-pro-dfc

xokia · 12-01-2015, 10:17 AM

That 1350kv is a tank of a motor in the little 500 it's really made for a larger 500 like a goblin. It's hard to get things balanced with that motor. Not impossible just difficult. Your flight time will drop like a rock though. I had it in mine and sold it.

11-27-2015, 05:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
tony whiteside The man behind CHC Join Date: Aug 2009	Scorpion motor choice What's the monster power motor from scorpion on the 500 align? __________________ Team Hardcore ):> #Highonhelis

11-27-2015, 06:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
tony whiteside The man behind CHC Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2009	Looks to be the 3226 1600 kv __________________ Team Hardcore ):> #Highonhelis

11-27-2015, 10:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
Relisys190 Registered Users Join Date: May 2011	I run the 3226 1600 at about 2850 but i've heard the 1400 version is ridiculous at about 2900 rpms on the ESP non pro version. -Markus __________________ LINKS * G700c BRAIN2 * T-rex 500 308DUO 450x #429

11-27-2015, 12:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
DCflyer Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: DC	The 1600kv is a 6 pole motor and the 1400kv is 10 pole. 1400kv is a couple hundred watts more powerful. For an ESP, gearing wise, the 1600 is a much better option if running governed. I have the 1400kv governed on a 16t (162t main gear) at 2750rpm castle and its maxed out. Still rips and I get 4 min flights out of it but would rather have a little more rpm than than torque. You could always go 17t but I'm no willing to do that since I'm only running a 75a esc for a lightweight setup. __________________ OXY5 MEG / 12S RAW KSE / 14S TDSF / 6S OXY rep

11-27-2015, 02:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
tony whiteside The man behind CHC Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2009	I don't run gov, so 1400 and 15 tooth? __________________ Team Hardcore ):> #Highonhelis

11-27-2015, 07:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
TACO88 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005	The Scorpion 3226 1400kv is another candidate. I have both and the 1400kv has more power than the 1600kv.

11-28-2015, 02:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
tony whiteside The man behind CHC Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2009	Thanks dude __________________ Team Hardcore ):> #Highonhelis

11-29-2015, 08:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
whodothevoodoo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2012	Couple of quick questions. Would the 3226 and 14 work with the 500L, and which ESC are you guys running with this setup? CC 75 Lite? __________________ Nano CPX, Nano BL, mCPX, mCPX BL, mQX, 130X, 180CFX, 300X, 450X, 500L, Trex 550L, Trex 550E FBL, Trex 600N DFC

11-29-2015, 01:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
Alex M K Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2014	Tony, beware of something really important! I run a Scorpion HK-3226-1600 with a 14T pinion on a souped up Trex 500L, with head speeds between 2900 and 3200 ---see link here, and one thing you have to be warned about and know about, that no one above is telling you! The Align one way bearings can't handle it!! I go through OWB's on this sucker like condoms on a NY street hooker!!! Doesn't matter what you put there...the bearings are crappy and can't handle the extra power and demand..don't waste too much on this set up. going with a a powerful motor on a heli that has a mediocre OWB is bad. Kind regards Alex

11-29-2015, 01:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
whodothevoodoo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2012	Sounds like KDE needs to make us a new OWB. __________________ Nano CPX, Nano BL, mCPX, mCPX BL, mQX, 130X, 180CFX, 300X, 450X, 500L, Trex 550L, Trex 550E FBL, Trex 600N DFC

11-29-2015, 02:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
whodothevoodoo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2012	I just finished sending him a email asking if he can help us. I'd even buy the KDE550XF-1200-G3 to go along with it if he did that for us. __________________ Nano CPX, Nano BL, mCPX, mCPX BL, mQX, 130X, 180CFX, 300X, 450X, 500L, Trex 550L, Trex 550E FBL, Trex 600N DFC

11-30-2015, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
xokia Closed Account Join Date: Sep 2012	Are you guys running straight cut gears?

11-30-2015, 11:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
whodothevoodoo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2012	In a email resopnce that I got from Patrick, he recommends running straight cut gears as a way of reducing side loads on the OWB. After my budget recooperates from Xmas, I think I'll pick up his recommended parts and give it a try. 2,900 sounds like fun! Below is a link that Patrick provided to his 500 setup. http://www.kdedirect.com/blogs/perfo...x-500e-pro-dfc __________________ Nano CPX, Nano BL, mCPX, mCPX BL, mQX, 130X, 180CFX, 300X, 450X, 500L, Trex 550L, Trex 550E FBL, Trex 600N DFC

12-01-2015, 10:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
xokia Closed Account Join Date: Sep 2012	That 1350kv is a tank of a motor in the little 500 it's really made for a larger 500 like a goblin. It's hard to get things balanced with that motor. Not impossible just difficult. Your flight time will drop like a rock though. I had it in mine and sold it.

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