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Finless · 03-01-2011, 04:37 PM

OK the one and only, famous, awesome, super cool Helifreak user Rick Lohr and a review of his new Flybarless Zero Pitch Head Setup Tool.

FBL doesn't have a flybar so using a pitch guage can be a challenge especially to set 0 pitch and adjust your links. While this tool wont tell you total pitch it makes getting the grips perfect to 0 pitch so now it's easy to make up your links to the swash when stick is at center! No fuss.... no muss

So on with the review!

VIDEO -> Review RDLohr's Flybarless Zero Pitch Head Setup Tool (25 Megs)

Enjoy,
Bob

rdlohr · 03-01-2011, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finless

OK the one and only, famous, awesome, super cool Helifreak user Rick Lohr

OMG, Capi's gonna have a field day with that one! LOL.

Thanks for the vid Bob. This is going to help clarify how these work for a lot of people! By the way, these tools have also been used very successfully with flybarred helis.

For those who don't know, Finless and John (Mercuriell) came up with the original need for a tool like this.

Rick

Tom.C · 03-03-2011, 09:04 AM

Lol, I was outside today tuning in a Robbe dinosaur, when it suddenly accrued to me... How does one use a pitch gauge with a fly bar to line up from,, As if by magic I have a little snoop on HF and low and behold its been covered.

Cheers guys.

hoot · 03-03-2011, 09:51 AM

A couple of things come to question. This tool assumes a few things.

The head/grips are machined properly.
The blades have no manufacturing root to airfoil departure.

It's a good tool to get you close though.

rdlohr · 03-03-2011, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoot

A couple of things come to question. This tool assumes a few things.

The head/grips are machined properly.
The blades have no manufacturing root to airfoil departure.

It's a good tool to get you close though.

So far when comparing this method to a standard pitch gauge on flybarred machines it has been right on.
Rick

Finless · 03-03-2011, 11:08 AM

I would think if the grips were not machined correctly you would have other problems. As for blade root deviation do blade makers even do that anymore? At least for FBL blades?

Bob

freeze · 03-03-2011, 01:22 PM

This looks like an awesome tool, but I had the same question regarding fit. For example, would it work w Mikado grips?

rdlohr · 03-03-2011, 07:48 PM

No. The universal tools are for heads with flat topped grips and heads. I have special tools for the Logo 400, 500 and 600. They actually really work well cause they take advantage of the ridges.

Rick

hoot · 03-04-2011, 11:45 AM

Great idea Rick. Sounds like it just works.

freeze · 03-04-2011, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdlohr

No. The universal tools are for heads with flat topped grips and heads. I have special tools for the Logo 400, 500 and 600. They actually really work well cause they take advantage of the ridges.

http://www.readyheli.com/search.asp?...lohr+logo+zero

Rick

Glad to hear it!

Thanks for the link....will def be putting this on my next order.

rdlohr · 03-04-2011, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoot

Great idea Rick. Sounds like it just works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeze

Glad to hear it!

Thanks for the link....will def be putting this on my next order.

The 500 version works for the 400 as well, but not visa versa.

Rick

Tom.C · 03-05-2011, 09:06 AM

Would this zero pitch tool be any good with fly bar helicopters? surley it would help out on blade tracking too, one of the things with blade tracking is to have a good clean start (blades being setup right) I understand their are other variables to incorrect blade tracking.

rdlohr · 03-05-2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom.C

Would this zero pitch tool be any good with fly bar helicopters? surley it would help out on blade tracking too, one of the things with blade tracking is to have a good clean start (blades being setup right) I understand their are other variables to incorrect blade tracking.

Yes. Many have gotten them for fly barred helis.
Rick

Tom.C · 03-06-2011, 06:40 AM

Nice one Rick, will be looking out for one then.

Cheers

rdlohr · 03-06-2011, 07:55 AM

Thanks much. Bob and John had a great idea!
You can get them here:
www.rdlohr.com

Rick

scientist · 03-14-2011, 08:33 PM

RDLohr, I can't find Rave 450 pitch tool? can you point me to your site where i can find it? I'm getting one.

thanks

rdlohr · 03-14-2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scientist

RDLohr, I can't find Rave 450 pitch tool? can you point me to your site where i can find it? I'm getting one.

thanks

Does the Rave 450 have a flat head and grips? If it does, my Universal 250-450 Zero Pitch Tool should work. If it is not flat, I don't have a Rave 450 specific tool, sorry.

Rick

arquitron · 03-14-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdlohr

Does the Rave 450 have a flat head and grips? If it does, my Universal 250-450 Zero Pitch Tool should work. If it is not flat, I don't have a Rave 450 specific tool, sorry.

Rick

Hello Rick,

Will your universal tool work on my MARS480 heli head? Here is a link to the head:

http://site.mars480.com/gallery/main...&g2_itemId=640

Thank you

rdlohr · 03-14-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arquitron

Hello Rick,

Will your universal tool work on my MARS480 heli head? Here is a link to the head:

http://site.mars480.com/gallery/main...&g2_itemId=640

Thank you

Looks like with a few washers it would work fine.
Rick

arquitron · 03-14-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdlohr

Looks like with a few washers it would work fine.
Rick

Rick,

Can you elaborate? where should I add the washers?

Thx

03-01-2011, 04:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	REVIEW - RDLohr's FBL 0 pitch tool OK the one and only, famous, awesome, super cool Helifreak user Rick Lohr and a review of his new Flybarless Zero Pitch Head Setup Tool. FBL doesn't have a flybar so using a pitch guage can be a challenge especially to set 0 pitch and adjust your links. While this tool wont tell you total pitch it makes getting the grips perfect to 0 pitch so now it's easy to make up your links to the swash when stick is at center! No fuss.... no muss So on with the review! VIDEO -> Review RDLohr's Flybarless Zero Pitch Head Setup Tool (25 Megs) Enjoy, Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco! Last edited by rdlohr; 03-02-2019 at 09:31 AM..

03-03-2011, 09:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tom.C Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009	Lol, I was outside today tuning in a Robbe dinosaur, when it suddenly accrued to me... How does one use a pitch gauge with a fly bar to line up from,, As if by magic I have a little snoop on HF and low and behold its been covered. Cheers guys. __________________ Zoom 400 (R.I.P)Bell 47g micro coax (R.I.P)Blade CX2 (R.I.P, lost at sea!)Shuttle Z, Reincarnated !HB1,MCX,TREX 250,MSR,MCPX,Raptor V2,Nano qx

03-03-2011, 09:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
hoot Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2005	A couple of things come to question. This tool assumes a few things. The head/grips are machined properly. The blades have no manufacturing root to airfoil departure. It's a good tool to get you close though. __________________ Rotormast V-22 Osprey, 2 450 Clones, BL P-51, Micro P51, Stryker, 2 Vapors,

03-03-2011, 11:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	I would think if the grips were not machined correctly you would have other problems. As for blade root deviation do blade makers even do that anymore? At least for FBL blades? Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

03-03-2011, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
rdlohr HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	No. The universal tools are for heads with flat topped grips and heads. I have special tools for the Logo 400, 500 and 600. They actually really work well cause they take advantage of the ridges. Rick __________________ Helifreak, the place to be! Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com Last edited by rdlohr; 06-25-2014 at 09:39 PM..

03-03-2011, 01:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
freeze Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2009	This looks like an awesome tool, but I had the same question regarding fit. For example, would it work w Mikado grips?

03-04-2011, 11:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
hoot Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2005	Great idea Rick. Sounds like it just works. __________________ Rotormast V-22 Osprey, 2 450 Clones, BL P-51, Micro P51, Stryker, 2 Vapors,

03-05-2011, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
Tom.C Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009	Would this zero pitch tool be any good with fly bar helicopters? surley it would help out on blade tracking too, one of the things with blade tracking is to have a good clean start (blades being setup right) I understand their are other variables to incorrect blade tracking. __________________ Zoom 400 (R.I.P)Bell 47g micro coax (R.I.P)Blade CX2 (R.I.P, lost at sea!)Shuttle Z, Reincarnated !HB1,MCX,TREX 250,MSR,MCPX,Raptor V2,Nano qx

03-06-2011, 06:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tom.C Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009	Nice one Rick, will be looking out for one then. Cheers __________________ Zoom 400 (R.I.P)Bell 47g micro coax (R.I.P)Blade CX2 (R.I.P, lost at sea!)Shuttle Z, Reincarnated !HB1,MCX,TREX 250,MSR,MCPX,Raptor V2,Nano qx

03-06-2011, 07:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
rdlohr HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	Thanks much. Bob and John had a great idea! You can get them here: www.rdlohr.com Rick __________________ Helifreak, the place to be! Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com Last edited by rdlohr; 06-25-2014 at 09:39 PM..

03-14-2011, 08:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
scientist Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	RDLohr, I can't find Rave 450 pitch tool? can you point me to your site where i can find it? I'm getting one. thanks

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