Quality insulation paper

[omerco]

Hi

I'm still struggling to get my hands on some good insulation paper.

I could see in the Scorpion motors I dismantled they use a paper with a kind of laminated side to it which is much better and stronger than the EBay one which is only nomex.

If anyone could point me to a source it would be most helpful. This has caused me many rewinds lately of the same teeth due to paper weakness.

Even a brand would be helpful so I can search the source myself.

Thank you guys

Omer

[sutty]

What about these guys?

http://www.dupont.co.uk/products-and...-of-nomex.html

[1BOHO]

Nomex-mylar or a similar product is probably what you are looking for. Here is the information with thickness charts and specifications included.

http://www.fabrico.com/sites/default...ition_2013.pdf

http://www.fabrico.com/materials/fil...in-films-mylar

[omerco]

Originally Posted by sutty

What about these guys?

http://www.dupont.co.uk/products-and...-of-nomex.html

This I have seen but couldn't find where to buy it online. Have one?

Edit: I mean at low quantities for fair price. I did find for 50$ a sheet....

[omerco]

Originally Posted by 1BOHO

Nomex-mylar or a similar product is probably what you are looking for. Here is the information with thickness charts and specifications included.

http://www.fabrico.com/sites/default...ition_2013.pdf

http://www.fabrico.com/materials/fil...in-films-mylar

Thank you for the links. Got a bit lost:
Nomex Mylar is certainly what I'm looking for. The thing is in the PDF you have sent I can't see it - I see other materials or maybe different (chemical?) names for the materials used. So which is the one?

Second - what do you guys think should be the thickness of each layers? Assuming 5 mil for example will you use 1/4, 2/3, 3/2??

Again thanks for all the help

[sutty]

Sorry bud, I can't help. I just thought I would spend a little time googling, and see if I could find what you were looking for, and came up with that link, but I haven't used them, and nor do I even claim to understand what I'm looking at. I was hoping when you saw it you might know what was what.

I knew you would have looked too, but I just thought it might be worth having a google in a slightly different way. You never know if just one key word can change the outcome on a hard to find item.

Hopefully 1BOHO knows more about the stuff he linked.

[omerco]

I thank you for the effort. You were correct it is what I meant and I have also found it in the past. It looks to me like one of the good brands as well.

i hope some of the links 1Boho sent will guide me to a supplier where I can by low quantity at a fair price because the product itself is between 5-7 $ p/sheet. Problem is usually the shipment.

But then I got lost between all the different types there, so first I need to decide which is the appropriate one. I will write my findings when have them. I have a burned Scorp Ultimate which I can check when I dismantle.

[1BOHO]

I'd go a thin as possible to save space for wire while still meeting your thermal requirements. I'd think 180* Celsius would be good. The other option is to measure the scorpion paper thickness to get an idea. Somewhere in the links it shows regional suppliers that you can contact with your needs. If I find it I will repost it. I think EIS is one of them and it is in Atlanta Georgia.

The scorpion material actually strikes me more as laminated polyester felt. It seems to be different from "NOMEX" paper I have used in texture and appearance.

[omerco]

Yep I intend to go threw the suppliers and see if I can get one of them to send me some.
I plan to measure the paper in the scorpion I have and then decide, although I can already see that in the thickness range we are aiming for the range is limited so I might not really have the choice.

[1BOHO]

Where to buy:

USA
EIS, Inc.
2018 Powers Ferry Road
Suite 500
Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: 678.255.3600
www.eis-inc.com
Electrolock, Inc.
17930 Great Lakes Parkway
Hiram, OH 44234
Phone: 440.834.7500
www.electrolock.com
Essex Brownell
1601 Wall Street
Fort Wayne, IN 46801
Phone: 800.805.4636
www.essexbrownell.com
Focused Solutions
2121 South 116th St.
West Allis, WI 53227
Phone: (414) 328-2540
www.focusedsolutionsllc.com
IDI Fabrication, Inc.
14444 Herriman Boulevard
Noblesville, IN 46060
Phone: 317.776.6577
www.idifabrication.com
Weidmann, Inc.
Fluid Filled and Crepe Electrical Technology
One Gordon Mills Way
P.O. Box 903
St. Johnsbury, VT 05819-0903
Phone: 802.748.8106
www.weidmann-electrical.com
Xamax Industries, Inc.
63 Silvermine Road
Seymour, CT 06483
Phone: 203.888.7200
Toll Free: 888.XAMAX88 (888.926.2988)
www.xamax.com


Canada
Canadian Motivel, Inc.
725 Boxwood Drive
Cambridge, ON N3C 1A4
Phone: 519.623.8370
Toll Free: 800.668.0647
www.canadianmotivel.com
EIS Polifibra
6 Melanie Dr
Brampton, ON L6T 4K9, Canada
Phone: 416.742.7300
www.eis-inc.com
Electro-Wind Supply, Inc.
2 Taggart Court
P.O. Box 713
Guelph, ON N1H 6L3
Phone: 519.836.2280
Toll Free: 800.265.8340
www.electro-wind.com





Paisley Products, Inc.
40 Upton Road
Scarborough, ON M1L 2B8
Phone: 416.751.3700
www.paisley.ca



Mexico

EIS, Inc.
Calle Octava Edifico Mic 11
Suite 1130 Parque Industrial Monterrey
Apodaca, Nuevo Leon 66603
Phone: 52 81 83213388
www.eis-inc.com
Essex Brownell
Boulevard San Pedro 110 Fracc.
Ferropuerto Laguina, 27400 Torreon
Coah, Mexico
Phone: 011.871.729.7936
www.essexbrownell.com
ISOVOLTA
Benjamin Franklin #4
Col. Parque Industrial La Joya C.P. 54730
Cuautitlan Izcalli Edo de Mexico
Phone: 00.52.55.5870.7930
www.isovolta.com
Proveedora de Aislantes (PAE)
Dr. Jesus Ma. Gonzalez #220
Col. San Jeronimo Monterrey, N.L.
C.P. 64640
Phone: (52-81)8151.5600
www.paemx.com
Saturno De Mexico SA De CV
Ave. Ind. de Sta. Catarina 169
Fracc. Ind. de Sta. Catarina
Sta. Catarina, Nuevo Leon
Mexico 66350
Phone: 52.818.390.6020
www.saturnodemexico.com

Fabrico is EIS.

This was in sutty's dupont link. I just had to dig a bit.

[omerco]

Yes I have seen it and already contacted EIS. Got an answer they don't stock NM.
Waiting for fabrico

[omerco]

Curtsy of Dekker:

http://www.brocott.co.uk/nomex-polyester-sheets/

They ship world wide.
Had no luck with the others I tried. ordered a roll from them.

[Brute71]

Iirc they like to use .006" papers, at least that is what my 4035 had in it

[apostolosnt]

Brocott paper is good. A lot of people in this forum buy from them but it's are a bit expensive. I have not bought from them for years.