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04-13-2015, 03:34 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Nano CPX Discontinued?
I was on Blades web site and the nano is in the discontinued items list. That means something new is coming ???
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04-13-2015, 03:37 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Now that I think about it this little birds been on the scene for 2 years at least.
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04-13-2015, 05:19 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Not sure what part of http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/D...ProdID=BLH3380 you're on, but "Due Early June, 2015" would suggest otherwise
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04-13-2015, 06:45 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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It's on the first line of discontinued products.
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04-13-2015, 07:07 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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If it is going to be Disc. It will be a sad day. Good thing there are parts galore for this thing sitting on shelf's everywhere. If it is in fact going to be disc I'll probably pick up a BL kit for one of mine and a few stock motors for the other to hold me off for a while.
Hopefully they are replacing it. A new nano sized heli sounds really exciting. Hoping they fix the main issue with the current ones. These DARN MOTORS! For me the website simply lists them as back-ordered. Not disc yet.
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04-13-2015, 07:16 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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There is no way they aren't going to replace it. And as good as it is there is room for improvement. Bring on the new one I say!
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04-13-2015, 08:45 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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The RTF has been on the HH discontinued list for a while (http://www.horizonhobby.com/helicopt...-x-rtf-blh3300)
but the BNF is just on backorder (http://www.horizonhobby.com/helicopt...-x-bnf-blh3380) Hopefully an improvement is on the way (like incorporating the BL upgrade onto the main board - or even better a freewheeling ESC on main board so you can run the BL motor other than at max so you can save you indoor furnature/walls/pets/etc... without cooking the canopy). This is great little heli, with the stock motor being the Achilles heel.
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04-14-2015, 06:51 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Aside from the electrics and motor, I'm not sure what they can do to improve it much while keeping costs down. They also need to keep the size and weight down, so I doubt they would add things like rotory servos. A tougher canopy and less slop in the head/grips/swash would be where I would like to see improvements, aside from the electronics side.
I know a lot of people will want brushless, but I hope they don't turn it into something like the MCPX BL. The Nano is one of the only decent beginner CP micros out there as it crashes well and although it can still zip away from you because it's so light, it's fairly easy to control. If they put a powerful BL motor in it like they did with the MCPX, beginners (like me) will struggle more. I'm not saying no BL or don't improve the motor situation, but I don't think giving it a crazy power to weight will help a lot of people. I guess the problem is that there are no true beginner CP micros and the Nano, being one of the only true indoor CP heli's, has two main users. Those who are very new and are at the very start of their "CP careers" and those who can fly and want a fun indoor 3D heli. The needs of both those groups probably couldn't be further apart. Sorry, I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I was just thinking about this the other day. Although I'm a beginner, I'm at the stage that I'm fairly comfortable doing basic flying with my MCPX BL, but there is no way I could have done it without bouncing about the house with my nano first - and a sim of course - and I would hate to see the Nano be improved, but lose the things that make it great for true beginners. |
04-14-2015, 07:59 AM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Indoor 3D want high head speed and maneuverability. Beginners want slower head speed to keep it docile and do less damage to the house. This is why a freewheeling on-board ESC and a BL motor is good. Can run high speed for the 3D'ers and still run slow slow speed without heating up (or adding much weight). mCPX BL in not indoor 3D. Swings too big a blade (and too fast). The brushed motors wear out too quickly (even for a beginner). This was the main impetus for the BL upgrade. Some protection for the main board would help too. Stronger landing skids would also help. A rear AR pin on the swash would be good too. Means that when you learn to flip it won't veer off course (like what happens with the side AR pin). If we round out the wish list. Piro comp on the main board would be nice (but not essential). The AR6335 which does have piro comp does not have a BEC or ESC, so is unsuitable (also is too big). The nano 3-in-1 board is a complete custom job. Fix these and you have a durable docile trainer for the new CP flier or an indoor 3D hummingbird (that will also fly fine outdoors). (Hope Blade is listening :-) ).
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04-14-2015, 12:01 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Quick question here. Why is rear ar pin better than side?
I mostly aileron flip at the moment. Are you assuming flipping in the pitch axis or is there a different reason? Sorry...just wondering and ready to learn...
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04-14-2015, 12:21 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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The best possible single upgrade would be cost minimal and very much an improvement...
Add the ability to the frame to use the mCPX V1 board and you'll solve a major problem The BL option is best left to the aftermarket...proof is in the performance |
04-14-2015, 03:46 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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They are only showing the RTF as cancelled so I assume the BNF is still going to be made. No way they get rid of this without a replacement.
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04-14-2015, 05:51 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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For aileron rolls, side AR pin seems to have no effect. On elevator flips it does (pulls right on positive, left on negative - especially on nano that requires toss-catch style in-place flips). Ideally a AR pin should be an extension of a servo-swash connection point. This way it's effects are mitigated by the servo itself (so no effect in flip or roll). A new flier would not notice this. A 3D flier certainly does.
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04-15-2015, 06:34 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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I think they should make it 2 to 3% bigger, change the AR location, freewheel esc, beef up skids and feather shaft to compensate for high head speed, BL motor, slap at $130 price tag on it and I would have a couple.
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04-15-2015, 06:37 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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As much new stuff as Blade has released lately my guess is, something coming. Those people have been busy!
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04-15-2015, 03:37 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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Honestly the whole "keep the costs down" thing is Blades biggest problem. I say give us superior equipment I can pay for up front. I want a $200 nano and a $400 180.
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04-15-2015, 04:08 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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All of my Blade micros are shelved because the boards went to hell. Shoot, my Nano CPX has never even been crashed and the tail motor ESC on the board stopped working. I'd guess it has less than 50 flights on it. If they ever want more of my money for a micro they need to step up the game as far as quality control.
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04-15-2015, 04:33 PM | #18 (permalink) | |
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Anyways, i hope they keep making some spares, I just got this bird
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04-15-2015, 06:39 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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They won't discontinue parts for years so you have nothing to worry about. Plus I'm not convinced it's really discontinued. fly it for a while. Great heli and best in it's class but plenty of room for improvement (worth paying some extra for, like the board, frame, lg and canopy). But yeah I'm speaking for myself. I push the nano so I'll crash the bigger stuff less.
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04-16-2015, 03:42 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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I'm hoping for an all new brushless version. The stock brushed motors just don't last and at 11.00 a piece, it's not worth replacing it. Wasn't Micro Motors Warehouse coming out with a better brushed motor for the Nano Cpx? Whatever happened to that news?
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