Question about training gear

solidhelix · 07-28-2012, 07:52 PM

I just got a set of training gear from hobby king for my trex 450. Is it supposed to support the heli? I just assembled it and the heli flattens it. I understand that may be how its supposed to be, but how is this supposed to help?

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michael503 · 07-28-2012, 07:53 PM

Helps keep it from tipping over. None of them have 100% rigidity

solidhelix · 07-28-2012, 07:59 PM

I can see that for taking off. But landing, I can't see it helping too much. Seems like a good way to snag something. I might just take them off again

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Slyster · 07-28-2012, 08:10 PM

and don't use it too long. 10-20 flights maybe.. really you want it only until you can gently land and not slam it down too hard. it will fly so much better without.

rcflier1 · 07-28-2012, 08:43 PM

it really should be used on a hard surface.you can then skim sideways as you get used to the controls yes on it catching clumps of grass/weeds.

michael503 · 08-01-2012, 01:49 PM

+1 on hard surface. Either that or very very close cropped grass like a golf course. On grass, use bigger balls if possible. You do not want, under any condition for the heli to be suspended like trampoline in the training gear. The heli's main gear must sit firmly on the ground without any tendency to "float"

Once you have mastered takeoff and landing and can hover out the tank/pack tail in, then take it off. This can be 2 flights or it can be 50 flights, depending on the heli's stability and the pilots learning ability.

badfrog · 08-01-2012, 01:59 PM

I "custom made" my first set of training gear using a small (about 3" square) block of 3/4" wood, 4 1/4 dowels and used empty water bottles for the "balls". it really worked great - the water bottles were attached by drillng a slightly larger than 1/4 hole in the lid, and a small screw through the bottom of the bottle into the end of the dowel which allowed the bottles to freely spin. This allowed for yaw while on the ground. the bottles are obviously larger than the typical commercial landing gear balls which made them ideal for grass etc.
I would post a pic, but am travelling and dont have a pic on my laptop!

erospawn · 08-01-2012, 02:03 PM

Training gear help significantly with takeoff's and landings. Ideally, you want to be on a hard surface so the balls roll..this way you can get a feel for the heli when it's full weight is not on the ground. So, the gear will help to keep you from accidentally tipping it over.

NCcraig · 08-01-2012, 02:13 PM

Once you can take off and land comfortably, pitch the training gear.

Maypole · 08-01-2012, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCcraig

Once you can take off and land comfortably, pitch the training gear.

+1

One thing further you can do is to get a set of 500 skids and mod them to fit your 450. This will give you added stability and even some confidence over the 450 gear while not being too detrimental to the heli's flight characteristics.

Luvmyhelis · 08-01-2012, 05:48 PM

Pitch them now! Hundreds of guys the world over that have used these can blame multiple crashes on them. They snag the ground (especially if you are training on grass) and flip the heli over. Take a set of 550/600 skids and mod these to fit your heli. Best training gear you will ever use and they aren't dangerously gangly like the training gear is. This may look ugly and this is controversial because of this. But it works.

MtnMan1 · 08-01-2012, 05:55 PM

I'm a totally new pilot and have had really good luck using the training gear. I really feel like it helped me progress much faster than if I hadn't had it; and it still saves me if I come in hard on a landing. it also really helps me with judging the distance/orientation. I put the little golf/wiffle balls on there, right at the ends of the sticks, and it does well on pavement and grass. to the OP, the springyness of the gear helps cusion hard landings.

but what do I know...

solidhelix · 08-01-2012, 09:38 PM

Yeah I pitched them. Been hovering around and landing fine in the back yard all evening I don't think I'll be needing them

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clough42 · 08-02-2012, 01:02 AM

I landed a little off-center on my first flight, snapping the training gear and sending it into the main rotor. Like ping pong balls in a Cuisinart.

I parked the 450 for a while and got an mCP X. Once I got comfortable landing the mCP X, the 450 was easy. No training gear needed.

07-28-2012, 07:52 PM	#1
solidhelix Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland Canada	Question about training gear I just got a set of training gear from hobby king for my trex 450. Is it supposed to support the heli? I just assembled it and the heli flattens it. I understand that may be how its supposed to be, but how is this supposed to help? Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Align T-Rex 450 Sport V2 (121T/12T Slant) BeastX Scorpion HK-2221-8, CC ICE 50, HS-5065MG's, HSG-5084 MCPX (HP08s, XP-12A, HP03T, XP-3A) <-DEAD Sprinklers Save Lives To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-2012, 07:53 PM	#2
michael503 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama	Helps keep it from tipping over. None of them have 100% rigidity __________________ -Michael

07-28-2012, 07:59 PM	#3
solidhelix Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland Canada	I can see that for taking off. But landing, I can't see it helping too much. Seems like a good way to snag something. I might just take them off again Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Align T-Rex 450 Sport V2 (121T/12T Slant) BeastX Scorpion HK-2221-8, CC ICE 50, HS-5065MG's, HSG-5084 MCPX (HP08s, XP-12A, HP03T, XP-3A) <-DEAD Sprinklers Save Lives To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-2012, 08:10 PM	#4
Slyster Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maplewood, MN	and don't use it too long. 10-20 flights maybe.. really you want it only until you can gently land and not slam it down too hard. it will fly so much better without. __________________ It's not just a hobby... it's a lifestyle! Outrage Fusion & 550 / Goblin 700 / SK540 / Kontronik / DX8 / Quantum / RJX / 4010 Duo Pete Team Outrage.

08-01-2012, 01:49 PM	#6
michael503 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama	+1 on hard surface. Either that or very very close cropped grass like a golf course. On grass, use bigger balls if possible. You do not want, under any condition for the heli to be suspended like trampoline in the training gear. The heli's main gear must sit firmly on the ground without any tendency to "float" Once you have mastered takeoff and landing and can hover out the tank/pack tail in, then take it off. This can be 2 flights or it can be 50 flights, depending on the heli's stability and the pilots learning ability. __________________ -Michael

07-28-2012, 08:43 PM	#5
rcflier1 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: long island ny	it really should be used on a hard surface.you can then skim sideways as you get used to the controls yes on it catching clumps of grass/weeds.

08-01-2012, 01:59 PM	#7
badfrog HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, Tennessee, US	I "custom made" my first set of training gear using a small (about 3" square) block of 3/4" wood, 4 1/4 dowels and used empty water bottles for the "balls". it really worked great - the water bottles were attached by drillng a slightly larger than 1/4 hole in the lid, and a small screw through the bottom of the bottle into the end of the dowel which allowed the bottles to freely spin. This allowed for yaw while on the ground. the bottles are obviously larger than the typical commercial landing gear balls which made them ideal for grass etc. I would post a pic, but am travelling and dont have a pic on my laptop! __________________ Team "Wife" sponsored pilot... Thanks Baby!!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. AMA# 977810

08-01-2012, 02:03 PM	#8
erospawn Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina	Training gear help significantly with takeoff's and landings. Ideally, you want to be on a hard surface so the balls roll..this way you can get a feel for the heli when it's full weight is not on the ground. So, the gear will help to keep you from accidentally tipping it over. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- T-Rex 450, T-Rex 500 EFL Pro, Trex 600 EFL Pro, Trex 700E V2 all FBL. Vbar, Beastx To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-01-2012, 02:13 PM	#9
NCcraig Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North Carolina	Once you can take off and land comfortably, pitch the training gear. __________________ Team Newb pilot BL mCPx (HP06V2 motor/HP03 tail),130X with HP08 motor,Trex 450 Pro V2 (KDE450XF motor,iKON),Trex 500 ESP (KDE500XF motor, iKON),DX7, AMA# 966513. PM me about mCPX & NanoCPX BL conversions.

08-01-2012, 05:48 PM	#11
Luvmyhelis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: spokane,washington	Pitch them now! Hundreds of guys the world over that have used these can blame multiple crashes on them. They snag the ground (especially if you are training on grass) and flip the heli over. Take a set of 550/600 skids and mod these to fit your heli. Best training gear you will ever use and they aren't dangerously gangly like the training gear is. This may look ugly and this is controversial because of this. But it works.

08-01-2012, 05:55 PM	#12
MtnMan1 Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: North Carolina	I'm a totally new pilot and have had really good luck using the training gear. I really feel like it helped me progress much faster than if I hadn't had it; and it still saves me if I come in hard on a landing. it also really helps me with judging the distance/orientation. I put the little golf/wiffle balls on there, right at the ends of the sticks, and it does well on pavement and grass. to the OP, the springyness of the gear helps cusion hard landings. but what do I know...

08-01-2012, 09:38 PM	#13
solidhelix Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland Canada	Yeah I pitched them. Been hovering around and landing fine in the back yard all evening I don't think I'll be needing them Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Align T-Rex 450 Sport V2 (121T/12T Slant) BeastX Scorpion HK-2221-8, CC ICE 50, HS-5065MG's, HSG-5084 MCPX (HP08s, XP-12A, HP03T, XP-3A) <-DEAD Sprinklers Save Lives To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-02-2012, 01:02 AM	#14
clough42 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Boise, Idaho	I landed a little off-center on my first flight, snapping the training gear and sending it into the main rotor. Like ping pong balls in a Cuisinart. I parked the 450 for a while and got an mCP X. Once I got comfortable landing the mCP X, the 450 was easy. No training gear needed. __________________ Blade 4503D ZYX-S Tarot DFC mCP X v2 BL HP05s/XP-7A/twin coreless

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