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dalby · 07-24-2006, 06:03 AM

Hi there

At the moment i own a T-rex 450 XL and i want to invest in a new larger heli this summer either T-rex 600 or Raptor 50.

I have read that some think that the T-rex 600 is better quality than the Raptor but i am afraid the T-rex will be to expensive (batteries)

Same time i will get only 6 minutes of flight time with T-rex where i can get 10- 12 minutes with the Raptor as i am informed.

Which one will cost me the most money (ready to fly)?

And which one has most power? I know Raptor 50 has a lot of power because it apparently is a Raptor 30 with a larger motor. Can the T-rex 600 compete here!

Of-course the "how to build" videos will help me a lot if i decide for the T-rex but i hope to have a lot of opinions and experiences with the 2 helicopters so i can decide which to buy.

Hope you will help me....

Kristian

Motions · 07-24-2006, 08:08 AM

That depends mainly on whether you want electric or nitro. If you don't have any nitro field equipment already, it will add to the cost of getting a nitro model ready to fly. Of course, batteries for the 600 are a big consideration also.

In my personal opinion, I would never buy or own a Trex 600. I have a 450 and not impressed at all with the quality. I would much rather get the E-Raptor when it's available. Just my opinion though.

I would like to convert all my birds to electric but until batteries become affordable for the larger birds, I have to stick with nitro.

DebianDog · 07-24-2006, 08:41 AM

If you like to fly but do not have endless amounts of cash for batteries... NITRO is the only option. I went to the field this weekend and flew (3) times in a row... unless I had 3 battery packs this would have been impossible. I doubt you can recharge 6s packs to +90% in less than 40 minutes and you will never get 10 minutes of hard flying.

I regards to quality Align is one of the few companies that seems to address problems rather quickly. I remember when the T-Rex first came out a new upgrade was in every box it seemed. I also think having the Szabos and friends finish flight testing the bird really helped out with the quality issues that plagued the 450.

The eRaptor will be nice since a lot of the parts/upgrades will work with the new model whenever it comes out... we are still waiting.

z11355 · 07-24-2006, 08:43 AM

the quality level of the 600 is MILES and MILES beyond the 450 series.

it's like it wasn't made by the same company.

Motions · 07-24-2006, 08:56 AM

I haven't seen nor flown a Trex 600 so I can't comment on it. I believe the plus is it's bigger so the tolerances should be better and should have less slop. By the time the v4 comes out it should be a nice model.

kidding

Gscott · 07-24-2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DebianDog

I doubt you can recharge 6s packs to +90% in less than 40 minutes and you will never get 10 minutes of hard flying.

Well this weekend I flew my 600 and recharged the pack to 95% in less than 30 minutes. With the TP 3010/210 combo this is easily accomplished and is probably the most bulletproof lipo charging solution available.

DebianDog · 07-24-2006, 09:42 AM

Thanks Gscott so I guess if you can get 10 minute flights and have 3 sets of packs, and a charger that does 2 at a time, you can pretty much fly continuously. :mrgreen:

Motions · 07-24-2006, 09:56 AM

How are you charging to 95% in 30 min? That's impossible unless your charging over 1C.

Gscott · 07-24-2006, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motions

How are you charging to 95% in 30 min? That's impossible unless your charging over 1C.

Exactly. The TP combo lets you safely charge at up to 3c.

Motions · 07-24-2006, 11:31 AM

stevehonn · 07-24-2006, 01:45 PM

Flightpower Evo20 packs can be charged at 2.5C according to their site although it may reduce overall pack life. I have a Trex 600 with 2 packs & a Swift with 2 packs plus an 85Ah deepcycle battery & 2 chargers. Even in the nitro days I didn't fly continuously as its as much about a chat with your buddies as it is flying. With the setup I have its easy to get 6 flights in a morning.

eerie · 07-24-2006, 06:00 PM

I have a T-REX 450 SE hybrid and a Raptor 50 TITAN. I am using a TT50H Pro engine, with a 3/4 full tank, i have fly for about 12-13mins, so with a full tank, i think i can stretch it to at least 14-15mins. I dont think my TP can beat that..plus if i use a 60 or 90 size fuel tank, i wonder how long more i can fly...

EKIM · 07-24-2006, 10:21 PM

The eRaptor will be nice since a lot of the parts/upgrades will work with the new model whenever it comes out... we are still waiting.

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There are pics of it in the new rc heli mag. Looks real sharp! :glasses:

Motions · 07-25-2006, 04:48 AM

The video of the test flight is awesome. It's a power house.

dodgey · 07-26-2006, 04:30 AM

One thing to definately consider is that you can fly your other heli/s whilst your bird with only one or two batts is charging. My Logo 20 only has one set of packs now (£400 a set!) so I fly it, then fly my rexs whilst it's charging.

The 6 mins on the rex 600 is a little mean though.

07-24-2006, 06:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
dalby Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2006	T-rex 600 VS Raptor 50 Hi there At the moment i own a T-rex 450 XL and i want to invest in a new larger heli this summer either T-rex 600 or Raptor 50. I have read that some think that the T-rex 600 is better quality than the Raptor but i am afraid the T-rex will be to expensive (batteries) Same time i will get only 6 minutes of flight time with T-rex where i can get 10- 12 minutes with the Raptor as i am informed. Which one will cost me the most money (ready to fly)? And which one has most power? I know Raptor 50 has a lot of power because it apparently is a Raptor 30 with a larger motor. Can the T-rex 600 compete here! Of-course the "how to build" videos will help me a lot if i decide for the T-rex but i hope to have a lot of opinions and experiences with the 2 helicopters so i can decide which to buy. Hope you will help me.... Kristian

07-24-2006, 08:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	If you like to fly but do not have endless amounts of cash for batteries... NITRO is the only option. I went to the field this weekend and flew (3) times in a row... unless I had 3 battery packs this would have been impossible. I doubt you can recharge 6s packs to +90% in less than 40 minutes and you will never get 10 minutes of hard flying. I regards to quality Align is one of the few companies that seems to address problems rather quickly. I remember when the T-Rex first came out a new upgrade was in every box it seemed. I also think having the Szabos and friends finish flight testing the bird really helped out with the quality issues that plagued the 450. The eRaptor will be nice since a lot of the parts/upgrades will work with the new model whenever it comes out... we are still waiting. __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

07-24-2006, 09:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
DebianDog Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Thanks Gscott so I guess if you can get 10 minute flights and have 3 sets of packs, and a charger that does 2 at a time, you can pretty much fly continuously. :mrgreen: __________________ Dan Da Dawg - JR X9303 Hexa F550 on 3S + 6S TREX 500 + 6S TREX 600 + Blade mSR + Blade mCPx2 Brushless + 12S Rave FBL ENV

07-24-2006, 11:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Motions My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	WOW!

07-24-2006, 06:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
eerie Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	I have a T-REX 450 SE hybrid and a Raptor 50 TITAN. I am using a TT50H Pro engine, with a 3/4 full tank, i have fly for about 12-13mins, so with a full tank, i think i can stretch it to at least 14-15mins. I dont think my TP can beat that..plus if i use a 60 or 90 size fuel tank, i wonder how long more i can fly... __________________ T-REX 450 SE MD500 (SE-maiden 15/03/06) (XL-maiden 16/10/05) T-REX 500 ESP (maiden 25/09/2010) Flasher 250 (maiden 13/09/2010) RAPTOR 50 TITAN (maiden 16/06/2006)

07-24-2006, 08:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Motions My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	That depends mainly on whether you want electric or nitro. If you don't have any nitro field equipment already, it will add to the cost of getting a nitro model ready to fly. Of course, batteries for the 600 are a big consideration also. In my personal opinion, I would never buy or own a Trex 600. I have a 450 and not impressed at all with the quality. I would much rather get the E-Raptor when it's available. Just my opinion though. I would like to convert all my birds to electric but until batteries become affordable for the larger birds, I have to stick with nitro.

07-24-2006, 08:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
z11355 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	the quality level of the 600 is MILES and MILES beyond the 450 series. it's like it wasn't made by the same company.

07-24-2006, 08:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
Motions My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	I haven't seen nor flown a Trex 600 so I can't comment on it. I believe the plus is it's bigger so the tolerances should be better and should have less slop. By the time the v4 comes out it should be a nice model. kidding

07-24-2006, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Motions My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	How are you charging to 95% in 30 min? That's impossible unless your charging over 1C.

07-24-2006, 01:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
stevehonn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006	Flightpower Evo20 packs can be charged at 2.5C according to their site although it may reduce overall pack life. I have a Trex 600 with 2 packs & a Swift with 2 packs plus an 85Ah deepcycle battery & 2 chargers. Even in the nitro days I didn't fly continuously as its as much about a chat with your buddies as it is flying. With the setup I have its easy to get 6 flights in a morning.

07-24-2006, 10:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
EKIM Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	The eRaptor will be nice since a lot of the parts/upgrades will work with the new model whenever it comes out... we are still waiting. [/quote] There are pics of it in the new rc heli mag. Looks real sharp! :glasses: __________________ *****Mike*****

07-25-2006, 04:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Motions My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	The video of the test flight is awesome. It's a power house.

07-26-2006, 04:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
dodgey Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	One thing to definately consider is that you can fly your other heli/s whilst your bird with only one or two batts is charging. My Logo 20 only has one set of packs now (£400 a set!) so I fly it, then fly my rexs whilst it's charging. The 6 mins on the rex 600 is a little mean though. __________________ T-Rex 150X, T-Rex 450 SEV2, Protos 500, Compass 7HV

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