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11-16-2015, 08:57 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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HK Heli Kits
Hi All,
I own a rex500 with flybar and I'm thinking on my next heli, I already plan to try the cheap way this time so I'll buy motor, ESC and cyclic servos from HK. Many people talks good about it so I would like to try it. I wanted to put all that stuff on a expensive 250-450 class kit (rex 450l or oxy3) but then I think: why? I can do it but if I want to go cheap then why cannot try some cheap HK kits too? I don't know which kit I want to buy but the battle is between the 250GT and the 450L. my idea is to build a cheap but solid heli that I'm not scared to crash cause spare parts is cheap. I'm not finding too much info on youtube or on the web and I don't know why, no one tried them? what do you think about it? I hope you get my point and I'm sorry if I made grammatical mistakes but english it's not my mother language. Cheers Andrea |
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11-16-2015, 09:04 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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HK framesets are great but I can't seem to trust the mechanics much (main and tail head assemblies). I'm a proponent of cheap helis but the effort necessary to make sure it's reliable can be a pain.
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11-16-2015, 09:06 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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You don't see a lot about it because there not very good. Get the gartt 450l if you are to cheap to purchase an x3 or oxy 3 kit.
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11-16-2015, 10:07 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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So both these guys are right. (And so were you too.)
1. Hobbyking helis were bad (well not great) at one point. The normal HK450 is in that bag. 2. Gartt is awesome and it's the best "REX" option, IMHO even over the Rex itself. Very very good. 3. Gartt is now actually Hobbyking's supplier for helis (any assault heli is Gartt except the 150) 4. Lastly, your hobbyking electronics are gonna be more than worthy of any airframe you put em in. My advice - get either of the Assault 450 kits. You'll be very happy. |
11-16-2015, 11:28 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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I have more HK450 kits than I'd like to admit to since they were on sale this summer for $30-50 depending on config (flybar/belt/TT).
Lots of people here are going on information from five or so years ago. The kits have gotten much much better. The biggest thing is needing to check all the pre-assembled parts. The main gears have gotten to be as good as align, the rest are sort of spotty. I have not been able to assemble a whole kit without borrowing a part or two to make it perfect. I'm sure HK is going to have some great sales coming up but don't forget to look at Banggood. They have a CopterX 250 FBL that is fantastic and its $45 shipped. I personally don't see the assualts as a great value at their current prices. For a few bucks more you are getting a Tarot. |
11-16-2015, 01:18 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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gartt 450 seems so similar to the HK450L and the price is just 20 euro more so no problems at all. I guess also spare parts are the same between HK and Gartt and aliexpress have a lot of spares but have crazy shipping cost (more than 35€).
I have to say I'm really tempted to try the 450L but the bigger problem to me is probably will have the same flight characteristics as my 500? I guess I must just try it to know the answer.. I always check pre-assembled parts so there will be no problems for that, I also can replace all bearing with better ones if it is necessary and for the HK's head, we will see, I mean is scam maybe but seems solid to me. for this 450L I'll pay 200€ or so for a RTF heli, and it's good to me, also maintenance costs (which is important to me) are cheaper too. there are a lot of heli that I would like to try it (protos, gaui and oxy) but I need to do things the way I can and if I can save 200 € and have a good time flying, why not? |
11-16-2015, 01:21 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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I have not had a Garrt heli, so I cannot speak for that, but I have used HK parts on a few occasions. For the most part it is fine, but just go over the heli making sure it is 100%, and replace any parts that are not up to par. Lately though it seems as though their quality had gone up.
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11-16-2015, 01:39 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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The newer HK clones are Gartt helis. Basically if it has black and silver parts it's Gartt, if it's one of the older ones with titanium grey parts then it was made by (I believe) Skya Model.
Gartt: Not Gartt. |
11-16-2015, 01:40 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Flybars look so old school these days.
Any of these kits need more than just rebuilding with loctite.
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11-16-2015, 02:15 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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And a lot of this was based on or precursor to the Assault line (up to 700) Those are ALL Gartt, 100% Gartt, and have never been anything but Gartt. The regular HK450, changed and "should be" Gartt now. (I just would not want to chance getting the non-Gartt version.) I have a Gart 450L and it is awesome! Better than the Trex 450L. (I sold / traded my Rex 450L for a Logo now.) |
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11-16-2015, 02:26 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Stay away from any of the older hk kits. They are a headach and will cost time and money to get flying. I don't know about the newer 'assault' stuff. As for the electronics the YEP esc's are good. Some of the servos and motors are okay, I would avoid their servos unless its one somebody can vouch for.
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11-16-2015, 02:28 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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I bought a hk450 a while back. It was the biggest pile I've ever laid eyes on.
The aluminum was very soft and flexible and everything stripped so easy. Half the stuff was ore stripped out of the box. That's been my experience with anything I've ever gotten from hobby king with the exception of some batteries. The electronics I had all were sub par. I wouldn't trust them in anything. Maybe things have changed since then, but I still wouldn't waste my hard earned money on that stuff. To me it's not worth it because by the time it's all said and done, you might have been able to just get the quality stuff from the get go.
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11-16-2015, 03:19 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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I had a gartt 450L. It was a great heli for the price. I only flew it a few times though. Had to sell it, because I "needed" upgrades for my X5
I would have no qualms with buying the Gartt 450L again (other than that gold color). My first CP heli was an HK450 FB heli. It sort of sucked. I crashed it first flight and had to replace the head with an Align head. I beat the heck out of that heli all summer. I sort of miss that cheap plastic canopy. It went through a lot of crashes without much damage. One thing it taught me to do is to properly build a heli (and how to remove stripped screws).
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11-16-2015, 03:46 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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I wonder how many people build an HK450 as their first kit, not having skills or equipment to do so and then get a bad taste from the experience. I've built more than a couple of junky clones and haven't stripped anything.
I certainly would never ever, ever recommend an HK kit for someone's first CP heli. |
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11-16-2015, 04:17 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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I don't have anything against clones, especially not the better ones. Just so long as you know what you're getting going into it and realize that you're going to spend more time on the bench than you might otherwise with the real deal you'll be fine.
You might want to consider a reputable FBL unit as the place to sink some cash, it can make up for a lot of faults of the heli and will be easier to tune than a super discount unit.
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11-16-2015, 06:24 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I'm not sure about gartt just because of replace parts from banggood or aliexpress ( I can't find other dealers) while the 450L from hk is the safer way for spare parts for me unless should I go with gartt using hk spares but seems strange to say...
here no one flew hk's kits so I'm 'alone' and I must have the right parts or should I wait 2 weeks for shipping. this is a pain in the ass |
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