DahlHouse Flightline

[dahld]

A previous statement, "...Kyle pointed out to me awhile back..."

Figures an 18 year old second year engineering student would identify the whole deal to begin with...

The kid needs a life.

(-: Dave

[trickybit]

Originally Posted by dswitkin

On the contrary, this kind of back-of-the-envelope math is exactly what you need to survive a Silicon Valley interview. You should email me a resume.

Dude, you don't live in SV, or we'd all be going after you!

[dswitkin]

Originally Posted by trickybit

Dude, you don't live in SV, or we'd all be going after you!

Yes, but I work at a big Silicon Valley company which you know very well, just from their NY office. So if you want to apply, PM me.

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by dswitkin

Yes, but I work at a big Silicon Valley company which you know very well, just from their NY office. So if you want to apply, PM me.

LOL. They do engineering in NY? Who knew.

[mahbouni]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

LOL. They do engineering in NY? Who knew.

Some of the world's best engineered structures are in NY. For their time they were state of the art.

[trickybit]

Originally Posted by mahbouni

Some of the world's best engineered structures are in NY. For their time they were state of the art.

What's a "structure?" You mean like a data structure?

Dan, I would like a better cafeteria, but I think we'll muddle through.

[mahbouni]

Originally Posted by trickybit

What's a "structure?" You mean like a data structure?

Physical structures. Buildings, bridges, etc.

[trickybit]

Originally Posted by mahbouni

Physical structures. Buildings, bridges, etc.

"It does not compute."

[mahbouni]

Originally Posted by trickybit

"It does not compute."

OK, then 42

[OverTemp]

Originally Posted by dswitkin

On the contrary, this kind of back-of-the-envelope math is exactly what you need to survive a Silicon Valley interview. You should email me a resume.

Thanks man Hopefully when I'm done with this job in 5 years I'll be driving 777's for FedEx, but I'm not shutting any doors. Got my Project Mgr cert a while ago too just so I might be more marketable. With my degrees I can pretty much teach, build bombs, or wage war... Not a lot of real marketable skills (well... Excel and PowerPoint warrior aside), so I thought I'd better start anchoring myself in fiscal reality somehow

I jacked up the math above... It's closer than I thought... Already edited it. It's what happens when you do it at 1 AM. So, the arc the blades travel when the tails are IN the 120 degree danger zone is 120 degrees, but it's only 60 degrees when they are OUT (it's a 180 degree cycle). So... It cut the distances in half

[rcmarty]

a question for kyle/dave

Is the 700 a lightly loaded disk ?

similar to a logo 600 3d , 623 mains , 1100 g pack ?

Or the logo 800 with the 14s pack (nano 7s5000) ?

I've got about 50 flights on the 800 now , bumped the main agility to 100 and the tail +10 , and i'm liking how it can be rolled and flipped in a tight box easily.

My 6003d on the other hand takes far more effort to do the same.


Hope my description makes some sense .. lol

Hopefully the 700 is in the mid of the mix.

Martin

[dahld]

@ rcmarty

Sorry for the delayed response, as I've been traveling (I'm at the Eurocopter Heli-Masters in Germany now).

Differences in disc loading, V-Bar agility settings, head dampening, power to weight ratio, head speeds used etc., can be confused or described differently by different pilots, and they also all relate or affect each other in how a heli "feels" to the pilot.

So with that said, the 700 to me feels like it should (meaning in overall flight performance), between the 600 and 800. I know what you mean about the 800 being quick and agile enough to perform in a tight box (even though it's big, it's got a fairly light disc loading), but the 800 can't compare in some of the other ''''descriptions" noted above with smaller helis (like collective response/power to weight ratio).

I've had well known competition level sponsored pilots fly my 700's, (and I've flown their Goblins, Raptors, X7's and Whiplashes). Were all friends off the competition field, and we all compare and comment to each other on the good and bad points of our helis (hate to bust anyone's bubble, but not one of them is perfect in every aspect). None of these pilots has ever told me they felt the Logo 700 had a "feeling" of a heavy disc loaded heli. The 700 actually has a pretty snappy feel to it in the air. I couldn't fly it like I do if it didn't.

Hope this info puts some perspective on the question of how the Logo 700 "feels" in the air.

Kyle D.

[rcmarty]

Thanks , makes sense for both a sizing/performance standpoint and marketing.

I'm going to be going with this machine when it becomes available.

I liked my 700n alot , put about 200 flights on it before i bought my first logo. Not the first one to sell of there align fleet once a mikado was bought .. lol

The 700 was a good size and flew well (with high headspeeds and pitch settings of course) good balance of flight time, performance , and sizing.

I'm sure the disk loading is going to be much better which should improve flight perfomance.

Martin

[futurase]

The TDR which I fly as my primary machine until the L700 is available I love but having one yourself the L700 has a much more "locked in" feel to it does it not Kyle?

As much as I LOVE my TDR it has never had the super locked in feel a L600 has.

Norman Ross Jr.

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by futurase

The TDR which I fly as my primary machine until the L700 is available I love but having one yourself the L700 has a much more "locked in" feel to it does it not Kyle?

As much as I LOVE my TDR it has never had the super locked in feel a L600 has.

Norman Ross Jr.

If you are looking for L600 feel in a 700-size package, I think you will be quite happy with the L700...

All of the ones I have flown have insane presence in the air, and an authority about them I have not felt with other 700's ... in some part, it is the weight that helps this. These things power through maneuvers and it just has an essence of brute force. It may not be for everyone, but it definitely feels nice. Unfortunately I think the TDR is on the other end of the spectrum, and sometimes its lack of weight leads to a decreased feeling of authority and poise in the air.

These are just my thoughts, of the L700's I have flown

[Jesse Kavros]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

If you are looking for L600 feel in a 700-size package, I think you will be quite happy with the L700...

All of the ones I have flown have insane presence in the air, and an authority about them I have not felt with other 700's ... in some part, it is the weight that helps this. These things power through maneuvers and it just has an essence of brute force. It may not be for everyone, but it definitely feels nice. Unfortunately I think the TDR is on the other end of the spectrum, and sometimes its lack of weight leads to a decreased feeling of authority and poise in the air.

These are just my thoughts, of the L700's I have flown

Hmm I wonder whose L700 that was

[trickybit]

Originally Posted by Jesse Kavros

Hmm I wonder whose L700 that was

Must have belonged to some sort of brute force, high-presence sort of a fellow. With good tuning skills.

As opposed to the more delicate and lightweight owner of the subject TDR.

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by Jesse Kavros

Hmm I wonder whose L700 that was

Get back to your reading!

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by trickybit

Must have belonged to some sort of brute force, high-presence sort of a fellow. With good tuning skills.

As opposed to the more delicate and lightweight owner of the subject TDR.

Said fellow appeared to have a TDR, L700, and extreme. All flown in their appropriate styles. :-)

The best flights were on the 130x though. ;-)

[dahld]

@ futurase

Your comment, "The TDR which I fly as my primary machine until the L700 is available I love but having one yourself the L700 has a much more "locked in" feel to it does it not Kyle".

Kyle's of the "Facebook generation", and seldom replies on the forums...so I'll make a comment for him (or in this case just quote him).

We were at the Eurocopter Heli-Masters this past weekend (which was a combination competition and fun-fly...and well executed by the organizers BTW), and between competition rounds, we watched some of the action going on.

TDR's were there flying (love to watch them go fast), and after watching one of many TDR's fly a combination of speed and 3D, Kyle spontaneously said (no malice intended...just an unsolicited comment), "TDR's just weren't made for 3D".

Now no one go crazy defending the TDR's ability to 3D. Of course it can. But at the outer limits of 3D performance where Kyle lives, the TDR (as Norman was suggesting), doesn't play as well as the Logo 700.

Of course on the other hand, the Logo 700 can't hold a stick to the TDR when it comes to speed.

There is no one perfect heli

(-: Dave